I removed the air supply. I got enough turbulence running a firefighting pump through a 6 or 8mm hole in a washer inside a hose fitting. The air certainly helps in kiffsta's machine, though.
Tried it out again today on an old alloy wheel, i think this pump need's to be bigger. I swapped out the 4mm tip for a ported 8mm tip and it is a bit quicker I also tried it at 60 psi, 75 psi and 80 psi, but it's a much slower process at lower psi's, lower psi possibly give's a better shinier finish though Will have to play around again tomorrow
You could throttle back the agitation line. Water / fluid is like electricity so it will take the least line of resistance. If you have a suitable sized ball valve etc you could put it on the agitation line to limit that flow and force some more liquid up the line. The proper vapor blasting gun will have less restriction as well as the fluid hitting the air stream at about a 30 degree angle vs 90 degrees. It should all make a difference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
When I say I blast at 45-60 psi, I have a separate 3 phase pump bringing the water in, my air is at 45-50 psi the nozzle brings the air and the water together
Yep, these DIY systems are not meant to challenge the commercial machines like yours. The little Onga is probably only 6000 lph and about 60 MPs max pressure at its 400 watts. Possibly a lower concentration in the slurry will assist the flow rate as flow drops off considerably with slurries when used on what is essentially a water pump. A more powerful pump will work better but the whole idea is to have a heap to build alternative to ( in Sydney at least) a $100 per hour plus drop of and delivery charge on lots of items over a build. I would have been looking at per $1000 easy with the cB250 and CB400 So a hundred or so $ to convert my Sand blaster is worth it to me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
The gun i'm using now is pretty much the same as this one, with a 1/2" air hose going to a high flow barb fitting I am just about to go grab another 1/2 barb fitting for the agitation line, so it'll match the slurry feed line size I currently have a 19mm barb as the agitation line so i'm probably loosing too much to the blasting gun
Truth is you could go down to 10mm if you wanted. Agitation is more about velocity than flow. That gun looks the goods. I have ordered a cheapie 550w pump so when it gets here I will start modifying my blaster. I need to get another motor pulley for the compressor. Mine has a big crack in it where it was damaged in transit. Suppliers don’t have any spares lol typical I guess. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
I fitted a new 13mm agitator barb fitting this morning and had another go with the vapour blaster. It remove's more corrosion now so i think the using the same size feed and agitator barb's is the go for the time being. Noticed that with the blasting nozzle on, the blasting is also quieter than blasting with the original gun i had used. I had another go on the mag wheel and did about twice the area in the same time
Personally I would run a smaller agitation line. You really want most of the flow going up to the gun. 1/2” line up to the gun will be fine but I would drop back to 10mm for agitation. Same principle as putting your finger on the end of a hose to create a stronger stream. Less flow, more pressure will keep the agitation up but allow more slurry to come out of the gun. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
20 minutes with the blasting gun, left bottom 1/4 of wheel And 20 minutes on the rear with the blasting nozzle with a 13mm agitator barb fitting. Possibly quicker because i disnt have to blast inside each spoke as much I need to clean off the old double sided tape from the balance weights too then give it another clean
What glass bead are you running on it. Finish looks a little course. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Watch you pressure , too high and you will pock mark the alloy , slow and steady on a lower pressure you yield shinier and smoother results
It was 150/106 fine, but has been well used in my bead blasting cabinet too So might be too fine now?
Here are some more part's i've blasted over the last week, still have the 13mm agitator barb, and run little to no air pressure to finish the part's
Looks like it is working pretty well. Do heed kiffsta's advice. Some of those parts may have a coarse casting or corrosion pits, it is visible that is the case in your parts, but different material will respond differently.
The 2x brake arm's were rough cast, standard 1976 Yamaha The alloy coolant manifold and the zinc plated coolant pipe were both painted previously so were in good condition before blasting, they came up the best The 1976 Yamaha 2x headlight fork mount's were painted steel and had lost most of their paint and had pitted rust before blasting I am pretty happy with the result's from such a budget setup, it's so much better than my bead blaster, no dust and less noise I have found another cheap dirty water pump i might buy and try out, it's a 750W 16,500 lph so would flow about 4 and a bit time's the amount the current pump does and probably more suited to the slurry mixture
That pump should be better suited as the ones the the Kiwi uses are generally around 1.1 or 1.5 kw. With the higher flow rate you will have increased pressure (head) as well. While you won’t get to 4 times the flow through your setup the overall flow / pressure will be higher and that will make it less reliant on the compressed air. That way the air is doing the dispersion / atomization ( for lack of a better term). I still haven’t had a chance to convert mine. Too many other things happening at the moment that take priority. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
I thought I might give you my tips and tricks for good blasting : Too much pressure can harm the alloy. Grease seems to repel the blast media , so spend some time cleaning your parts , makes life heaps easier and a quicker job. Don’t focus on that spot that won’t come off , you can damage the alloy around it, when I do cases with lots of chain, lube, grease etc , I use some degreaser first to loosen it , I also have a pick that I use to get into those hard to get places and gently break it up. The age of the alloy and composition of the alloy need to be respected , ie if you are blasting older parts from the 60’s and older , set your regulator for your air flow on a much lower setting or you will blow a hole in it as a guide Modern to 1987 - 50- 60 psi 1986- 1977 - 45-55 psi 1976- 1960 - 40 -50psi Any thing older , Start at 40 psi and see how it comes up , you can always increase On older alloys , do a test patch that isn’t visable first Your media to water ratio is key , I aim for between 20-25%, the easy way to test is to find a 4l plastic bottle that is clear ,cut a 3cm hole on one side near the top, spray your gun into the plastic bottle until it overflows at the top , let it all settle and you should see the concentration of your media , if my media settles and I have 3-4 cms of media in the bottom of the bottle , then I am pretty good. Clean water will yield better results. if the part you are cleaning has pits from water and / or bad storage be very careful blasting it as the high pressure water and media can make it a lot worse. gasket material repels the blast media , get a gasket scraper and get as much off as you can. different grades of media will yield different finishes , I use ah, ad and c grade media from potters , ah is the finest and gives a shinier finish , but doesn’t sink in the water sump as well as the other 2 , ad is my go to bead , great finish. Avoid c bead unless you are doing industrial Cleaning of steel , it is too abrasive for alloy and pits it be carefull on cylinder heads where there is putting , the blast media can make it worse. Think of 3 stroke heads with det marks Be wary of parts ( swingarms, fork legs etc) that are anodized or certain parts with that ultra hard clear coat , no point trying to blast it off, even at higher pressures, most anodizers will have a caustic tank, pay them $20 to dip the parts in their tank and then vapour blast to get the nice finish. don’t blast cases and parts with bearings in there , the media gets stuck in there and you cant get it out. Better to remove your bearings. Invest in a blind bearing puller , honestly it makes life so much easier. always clean your blasted parts in fresh water and air hose dry , water marks can be a pain to get off if your water is dirty. dont leave a recently cleaned part of your cabinet overnight or for long periods , it will draw on the water from your sump and will end up with a bad finish. Wet blasting is not a paint stripping process, buy a 4l tin of diggers industrial paint stripper and remove as much paint as you can, if you try and blast the paint off , it just dirties your water and can damage your pump . Paint stripped is your friend , but watch skin contact , it burns like a mother fucker , also don’t put your hands in the blasting gloves with paint stripper , you can get a warm and fuzzy feeling followed by an emergency dash to a sink to wash it , speaking from experience here. sometimes it is better to sandblast to remove paint and powder coat , than to wet blast , use the sandblast to get the paint off , then wet blast to achieve the finish , I do this a lot on finned heads on 2 stroke dirt bikes. blasting steel and cast iron will clean up, but it will flash rust, I use wd40 or similar on barrels after I have blasted them to stop the flash rust. You can buy a rust inhibitor for your sump water , it works okay , but anything with an iron content will still flash rust. be wary of blasting parts like carbs and master cylinders where there are tiny passages , the blast media will get stuck and ruin your part , better to remove pistons and seals from master cylinders. You can use your blasting cabinet for other fun things such as etching glass , make a mask from thicker vinyl and attach it to a sheet of glass then blast in the gaps , it will etch a pattern. You can blast other metals such as copper and brass , but as they are softer, You need to adjust your pressures , I have cleaned up brass plaques from graves for customers , they came up really well for something that was exposed to the weather for 30 years. I’m sure there is heaps more , but that is all I can think of now , good luck with it .
Bloody hell Kiffsta, can I just bring my stuff to you. I'll get a headache just reading the instructions.