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Pinned Coil On Plug conversions - COP

Discussion in 'Tech Tips' started by Linkin, Aug 24, 2017.

  1. GreyImport

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    These look more like it .... now just need an Aussie seller .... site says Australia but they are in the Netherlands



    2-pole-bobine-ignition-coil-connector-stekker-Stecker.jpg


    2 Way Female Nippon Denso Ignition Coil Connector

    2 pole female motorcycle wiring connector which can be used on Nippon Denso stick ignition coils.
    Connector will be delivered with terminals and seals.

    Terminal Size: 2.3mm
    Plug Length: 26mm, Width: 19.3mm, Height: 18.5mm
    Fits directly on Ignition Coil

    Ignition coil numbers:
    129700-3440
    129700-3630
    129700-3881
    129700-3960
    129700-3990
    129700-4150
    129700-4180
    129700-4201
    129700-4400
    129700-4410
    129700-4420
    129700-4510
    129700-4571
    129700-4580
    129700-4740
    129700-4800
    129700-4840
    129700-4850
    129700-4860
    129700-5020
    129700-5150
    129700-5430



    http://www.carmoelectronics.com.au/...ucts_id=2440&zenid=b77b90svgri9n9n4e4rsji7jh1
     
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    OK, so I'm going to ask a daft question, which will be mostly rhetorical - I am assuming that you didn't get the plugs for the coils at the same time because they wanted you to buy the whole wiring loom for too many $$

    Anyway it may be worth trawling through these catalogues

    http://ishop.cooldrive.com.au/catalogues

    Pages 161 - 260 in this catalogue might be useful, that's actually pages 176 - 275 in the document
    http://ishop.cooldrive.com.au/catal...s-automotive-electrical-accessories-catalogue
     
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    Nearly all of these COP coils are sold (eBay etc) as just the coils. It would make it much easier if they were sold with the connectors and wiring. I think even the ones @kiffsta was/is selling didn't/don't have the wiring/connectors.
     
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    Yep and its hard enough finding a set of 4 coils that arnt junk , rusty or selling for stupid money

    Findapart ...

    Hi,
    Thanks for the email We have one in stock $65 each from a EX300

    Hi, can do a set of four Ninja 300 coils $150 delivered.

    hi can supply 300 ninja ignition coils $65 each
    thanks

    $300 for 4
    Regards,

    From the EX300A $75 each

    We can supply a pair of stick coils for $110.00 inc GST, Plus postage.

    :commando:

    Ill bide my time
     
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    Yes, that's understandable as no-one want to hack up a perfectly good loom, what is surprising is that the plugs for them are seemingly so obscure - that's the sort of gotcha which getsya when you least expect it - I know because it happens to me all the time
     
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    FWIW - I've had post arrive from the UK & Europe so much faster than items arrive from China and Hong Kong it's not funny
     
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    Yep, that's them alright.
     
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    Found these on ebay

    https://www.ebay.com.au/i/283345970159

    I'd say a trip to the local wreckers that dismantles anything Ford might be in order - I'd take a look at the BA Falcon downstairs in a jiffy except that removing the coil cover on the rocker cover is a long winded PITA and accounts for most of the time it takes to change the spark plugs

    Looking at these coils, it seems to be the same plug
    https://www.ebay.com.au/p/18032592877?iid=332362248997

    OK I just checked the BA Falcon downstairs - same connector - now that should open up a whole universe of options - one gotcha though, don't know if I'd get them from a used car as they MAY be brittle from the heat cycles and the crimp inserts should be available from Jaycar or the like - they may not be hanging on the wall with the other crimps but be part of a plug set amongst the various connectors
     
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    OK so I've got a question in amongst this, where have you scooped up the data relating to the resistances of the various coils?

    Is it just sheer persistence on the net, cross reference models, then search service manuals, because I've tried three or more Denso sites and they're awful and just putting any of the various Denso part numbers into google + the word resistance seems to go nowhere useful
     
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    Short answer...the individual bike manuals give you the primary and secondary figures. Denso make COP's to order, so going to them is pointless (I tried). I was chasing the shortest COP they made, but they had no idea.
     
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    Ive looked at so many of the little fukkers and comparing, I needed some backup eyes .... they all started looking the same :cool:
     
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    This is what they look like before the yellow locking wedge is inserted...

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    I bought my coils from a company called “NP Boosted” and they come with the plugs and a length of wire.

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