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Discussion in 'Suzuki 250cc Twins' started by Federal Agent at Large, May 9, 2018.

  1. Federal Agent at Large

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    Dont care if its a knockoff or not for that price - if it dont work I will be dead sure to get my money back - if it hold for a while, then I can get 20 or more to replace it for the price of one "genuine" that you still dont know for sure its actual genuine.
    Got mine from a new site I just stumbled across called... https://www.banggood.com/Regulator-...-For-SHINDENGEN-MOSFET-FH020AA-p-1220209.html
     
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    But will they cover the cost of repairing your bikes' fried electrics when it blows up?

    I had a bad reg/rec fail to regulate voltage, it was pumping 16-19v into the electrics. It boiled a brand new battery into a buckled mess, fried every globe and globe housing on the bike, and killed the tachometer. Easily could have been a fire hazard.

    Not a fun time at all.
     
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    Noted - I guess what I could do is to fit a voltmeter on the bike to keep track of it when riding - Or even better, I could add a fuse to it (as u should) to prevent such mess - but to be honest, the reviews isnt indicating that kind of scary scenario on the item = got good reviews and I dont think they could continue to sell bad items as u describe for long without someone pointing fingers - Guess I have to take the gamble - the bike isnt worth heaps so...
    - not interested paying 350+ for one though thats for sure
     
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    Anyone out there that know what amp this 250cc vlc Intruder should be limited to - Installing inline fuse and tossing with opting for an automatic circuit breaker rather than a std fuse - Is 12v 30Amp circuit breaker ok or should I go higher/lower on this bike?
     
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    Main fuse would probably be 20 amps but check the circuit diagram in the Service Manual.

    By the way, no one was suggesting you pay $350 for a new Reg/rec. $135 I think was one of the prices mentioned for a reputable product of known quality.
    $30 probably wouldn’t even get you a good 2nd hand one so you have to wonder about the quality of what you are buying.



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    Buy a fuse or circuit breaker rated just over the regulator/rectifier you bought, 5 Amp's higher than the reg/rects' peak output is generally good.
    The reg you bought is way over rated for your tiny battery.
     
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    That would be 35 amps.. (too high for my liking) as it is listed as 30 amp but the pictures show it with an inline fuse.. doesnt mention it though.. personally I wouldnt use it. I would cough the extra $100 or so to buy one from a reliable source... but that is me...
     
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    I dont have a service manual and havent been able to source one - closest I got my hands on is for the 125cc But wouldnt trust that when it comes to this.

    As far as buying a cheap reg/rec, well, I guess I;ll find out - Still think $135 is a lot of $ for this - The reviews on the item I bought also show great reviews - But I take your point - it may turn out risky - but what is the worse that can happen if you fuse the circuit properly - If it sends to much feed through that would take care of it - if it dont send anything through I will see this soon and return the item for a full refund
     
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    I dont have a service manual and havent been able to source one - closest I got my hands on is for the 125cc But wouldnt trust that when it comes to this.

    As far as buying a cheap reg/rec, well, I guess I;ll find out - Still think $135 is a lot of $ for this - The reviews on the item I bought also show great reviews - But I take your point - it may turn out risky - but what is the worse that can happen if you fuse the circuit properly - If it sends to much feed through that would take care of it - if it dont send anything through I will see this soon and return the item for a full refund
     
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    Mate you probably need to look at posts a bit better. @my67xr gave you a link a page or 2 back for a pdf of the Service Manual. And you are prepared to spend good money on freight sending a $20 piece of junk back to the US expecting to get a refund... well I guess you can try.
    As for reviews... there are 7 and 4 of them are from the same guy.. .not what I would call the greatest feedback.. lol
    Good luck with it all, I hope it works for you.


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    hm... Did I mention I didnt have the $ or... - Hence spending chips for a replacement part in the hope it would work out - The pdf isnt available unless I pay a fee and from what I;ve seen its the same blimming 125cc handbook I already got
    So perhaps Im not the only one not paying enough attention to details.... :(
    Id love to support this forum by paying for manuals etc, but not unseen and not when its the wrong manual - Difficult to make out from the earlier post, but what Ive seen its not the manual or service manual for this bike - so why should I send $ to a site and then find out its rubbish
     
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    Yes, it is the 125 service manual but for the purposes you need it for it is fine...far better than not having one but the decision is yours...if you bothered to try and get it you don’t have to pay anything...you can just download it...
    I didn’t look at it because I don’t need to...plus I know that @my67xr would not give you a bum steer....in the end the decision is yours as to what you do...
     
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    wow! Talking about paying attention - try clicking the link and it blocks you unless you pay the fee - and again, I do have the 125cc manual, but not satisfied with falling back on this considering its not the same bike/size on several levels
    I dont want to get nasty here, but your comments is not really that good on a range of issues
     
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    06D8D030-C638-48D7-98C1-4E033F1886F8.png 51C67B85-DF10-404F-92ED-B3B173BFC79D.png 76CC0534-0A0E-4DE9-80D3-1E2AC622E2B6.png Is this the link you tried
    https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/39922361/suzuki-vl-125-intruder-manual

    Because I have just opened it and no request for payment....but if it is the same one you already have.
    You can get enough info to use for your purposes....see the pics which are screen shots I took from the Service Manual...and I can get all 242 pages

    As for the rest....don’t stress I certainly won’t be offering my input any longer.
     
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    The service manual i linked in post #15,
    just click on it and read it online, there's no need to buy it to see if it's the same as what you already have
    That's the same one i uploaded here in the resource's area.

    Most of the electrical system test procedure's in that manual are generic test's,
    you can use them to test a large variety of bike electrical system's, just your reading's will be slightly different.



    Do you have a new battery for your bike when the new reg/rect come's in, or is your old battery ok still ?
    If using your old battery it might pay to give it a charge (don't use a charger bigger than 1.2A)
    Once it's fully charged it should show a minimum reading of 12.65v after sitting for a day or 2.
    Then take it into a battery place like batteryworld the next day and have them load test it for you, most place's will do this for free.
    If you've had problem's with it going flat then it might have damaged the batterys' capacity, and/or have a weak cell now.
    If that's the case it will draw a lot of amp's through you new reg/rect and cause your fuse to blow or circuit breaker to trip.

    Oh yeah, if the new reg/rect isn't any good and send's too many volt's through your bike's electric's the fuse or circuit breaker won't do anything to stop it from happening.
     
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    Ok, This time it opened up - so thanks for that - But as I said, its for the 125cc - not 250cc (unsure if anything changes, hence looking for something specifically for the 250cc) - I also have something in Spanish for the 250cc, but its dead hard to make out what its saying due to the language barrier.
    No idea why I couldnt access this earlier - tried several times and each time it came back with a request of depositing $ into the forum before gaining access to the manuals (pdf's)

    Again, sorry for being a bit short/tempered
     
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    You must have been trying to download it, not open it
     
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    So going back on the 125cc manual, it appears that its expected that the max amp @ 5000rpm should be 20Ah.
    A fuse shutting down at 20Amp wouldnt be right, eh- surely u need some threshold upwards towards 30amp or so... ? or ...
    If the bike normally is expected to produce 20Amp at speed (5000rpm), then this could easily go up if you push it further (that might crank up the amp) - so, like my initial question, would a fuse /circuit breaker limited to 30 amp be to large
    (A 25 amp circuit breaker I cant help thinking this would be fairly tight within what the bike potentially could produce @ times) = just thoughts bumping head with others on the subject
     
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    20A Maximum at 5000rpm's, so below that less amp's, and above that less amp's
    The stator would be made so that it put's out the most power at that rpm, it'd be the average speed the engine sit's at.
    The bike would be set up so it would be running at around 15A at maximum.

    20A load on the stator / reg/rect would be like everything electric was turned on and it had a heavily discharged battery
    Both the battery and reg/rect would be running very hot and not last too long
     
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    Great! Exactly the info I was looking for - thanks heaps for this info! - Will put on a 20-25Amp circuit breaker or fuse to ensure I dont fry my battery & or harness then
     

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