Hey all, So the water pump has sprung a leak on the MC19, & needs to be replaced. Now A.C. Has offered up a MC22 pump. Can anyone confirm that they are a direct swap? From the outside they look the same. But my mate who is the service manager at Pro Honda says the MC19 & 22 a completely different engines, & dosent believe they are. But he cannot confirm. Being that he doesn’t get many if any MC19’s come in. Can anyone help out with this little nugget? Cheers.
The part number's are the same MC19- 19200KY1000 https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cbr250r-1989-k-japan-mc19-105_model48709/partslist/0058.html#results MC22- 19200KY1000 https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cbr250rr-mc22-1994-r-japan_model14667/partslist/E09.html
Huh, I looked on Cmsnl & couldn’t find part numbers! My eyes must have been painted on that day. Or my servere sleep deprivation!
My friend Pete who bought my MC-19 has a leaking pump too now and asked me to find one for him (he is very computor challenged). I found some NOS that range from $282 to over $400, and then I found this. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TYU...28e210e&transAbTest=ae803_2&priceBeautifyAB=0 Will see how good they are when it gets here.
Soon they will have entire engines for sale. How does this happen I wonder. Hard to believe that they are reverse engineered.
from chinese made parts for my ford falcon i would say the water pumps will be equal or better than the honda originals.
If it's anything like the Honda and Kawasaki engine's that are copied for pitbike's, Honda only has a patent of 3 or 4 component's from the complete engine, the rest of the part's can be copied or used in anything. And a lot of the big manufacturer's use part's made in china anyway
Some parts for my Land Cruiser are made by Aisin such as the water pump and viscous hub ... a huge Japanese automotive parts company partly owned by Toyota and of course sold as 'genuine Toyota' .... I doubt theres any Chinese input involved in such parts
Depends on what it is ... a brake rotor or a water pump I would shop differently than a seat cover or a blinker assembly
TIANJIN AISIN AUTOMOBILE PARTS CO.,LTD. Business Activities: Manufacture and sale of automotive parts President: Masahiko Komuro Location: 8 BeiCang Road, BeiChan District, Tianjin, CHINA Telephone: +86-22-2681-1524 FAX: +86-22-2639-0977 Have a read here, They make all sort's or automotive part's, automatic transmission's, gearbox cases, clutch disc's, disc rotor's, brake's, proportioning valve's, booster's, water pump's, fan coupling's etc etc under licence from Toyota, Honda, Peugeot, Citroen, VW, Chevrolet and Ford https://www.marklines.com/en/top500/s500_435 The original casting's may be made in China/Phillipine's/Taiwan then they ship them to Japan to be machined and assembled etc, and i'm guessing when they're all put together that they'd be checked for quality control and repacked into Toyota box's etc Doesn't really matter where thing's are made, as long as the quality is high, and they can do the job they're made for
Following on from that. This is what I was driving at. Many OEM parts are obviously made in China. Let's say Honda was getting the water pumps made in China? Then what happens if Honda no longer wants to order any more because they have to order 1000 at a time because of the original agreement? The manufacturer is now free to sell to whoever? It seems like that is what is happening to me.
Just look at bearings... I think @Murdo showed some SKF bearings that when you open them up have made in China on them.. I bought some bearings the other day for the motor on the compressor and ended up with Nachi bearings because that is basically all the Industrial supplies shop keeps.. because they are still made in Japan. They were a little dearer and probably didnt make any difference in that situation but as he was the only one open on Saturday.. There are many big names that manufacture in China.. most have their own tooling and machinery as well as their own Management etc.. but the availability of cheap facilities and labour plus Government incentives are hard for them to resist and generally quality id very good.. it is a tough choice sometimes..
I must check my Wiseco piston. Most likely the same. I love the quality of the forged piston though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro