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New Member 1965 Yamaha YDS3 Ascot Scrambler

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  1. RPlaisance

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    Hello! Starting the restoration of an Ascot Scrambler. Any guidance about user groups, blogs, etc. is appreciated. Seeking an owners manual specific for Ascot Scrambler (does it exist?). Seeking mechanical drawings/vendor information for fabrication of the expansion chambers and the air filter assembly. I have found and ordered some used parts via eBay. Thanks for the assistance!
     
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    Welcome to the forum
    The Factory Service manual is here in the resource's section, not sure if it cover's the Ascot Scrambler though ?
    There is a 23 page Tuning Theory section with calculating compression ratio's, expansion chamber diagram's etc etc for Street, Scrambler and Road Racing

    @mboddy may know if it does or not ?

    To download the service manual etc, you'll first need to upgrade to a Premium member
    https://2fiftycc.com/index.php?resources/categories/yds3.61/

    There's a link highlighted in yellow near the top of the page, click on it and pay the $10AU via paypal and you'll become a Premium member

    Any pic's of your bike ?
     
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    YDS3 is earlier than I have had but I did have a mate at school who I recall had either a YDS2 or YDS3.
    I do have a few Yamaha books though.
    I looked up the Ascot Scrambler in Yamaha two-stroke twins by Colin MacKellar.
    Yamaha originally produced a scrambler kit for the YDS2 known as the Ascot Scrambler.
    The YDS3 had two Ascot Scrambler variants; YDS3C was a dual purpose bike and YDS3CM was the serious competition machine.
    The YDS3CM had the same engine as the TD1B.

    Yamaha YDS3C
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    Yamaha YDS3CM
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    That scrambler looks like a fun little bike.
     
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    Thanks for the YDS information, my bike appears to be a YDS3CM. It is near-complete dis-assembly with focus on parts inspection, cleaning, rust removal and proper interim storage. I will provide pictures at a future date.
     
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    Working with two engines to create one rebuild. Challenged to remove clutch assembly from shaft. After the large nut and flat washer is removed, there appears to be machined semi-elliptical clips embedded at end of shaft (reference attached picture) and I have not successfully determined how to remove them, seeking guidance. I have reviewed three Yamaha YDS service manuals, however, the step-by-step how to not provided.

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    Murdo The Good Doctor Staff Member Contributing Member Ride and Events Crew

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    Small flat blade screwdriver to prize the ends up and grab with pointy nose pliers.
     
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    My 1965 YDS3CM had an aluminum barrel with an iron liner, where the TD-1B had an aluminum barrel with hard-chrome plating. I believe that the 1964 and prior Ascotts did use the TD-1 engine. At least the prior years' expansion chambers had the same look for both models.
    My bike's primary gear-drive was helical instead of the TD-1B's straight-cut. The TD-1B made power from 8K-10K. My Ascott made power from 6K-8K. I later, converted the Ascott's engine and expansion chambers to TD-1B spec.
    Using street exhausts, the rev-band was reduced to YDS-3 level; I could easily ride the bike in town.
    Although not my bike, here is a photo of the 1965-66 version. Note the larger air filter housing.
    1966 Yamaha YDS3-CM Ascot Scrambler.JPG
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    A "fun fact" for you all: the Ascott's and TD-1B's clutch hub, backing plate, was a weak casting. It would fly apart with normal, racing use. The "trick" set up was to machine a backing plate from aluminum, per Yamaha's drawing. I never saw a failure after installing that.
     
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