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Help Removing rocker shaft pins XR/XL/CB250RS

Discussion in 'Honda 250cc Singles' started by gregt, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. gregt

    gregt Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Anyone got a favoured method ? I'm turning a pigs ear into a silk purse and have to swap good rockers into another cam cover - but someone's driven the locating pins in.
    Heat's not doing it. Thinking of TIG welding onto the pin ends and using a slide hammer...

    Don't really want to have to cut up a usable cover just to get the rockers out.

    Thanks.
     
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    Murdo The Good Doctor Staff Member Contributing Member Ride and Events Crew

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    Tab weld some 1/4" rod to the pins and grip in vice. Tap cover away from pin with soft faced hammer. Cut off weld and clean up the pins for reuse.
     
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    Yes, well, one pin came out with a screw TIG'd to it. The other broke twice - not the weld, the pin....
    So as it was the side that's not under the frame mounting lug - luckily - I marked out the top of the casting and drilled in with a 4.5mm drill. Hit the end of the pin pretty much spot on. Drove it out with a pin punch.
    The casting is reusable as I'll tap the hole for a 5mm grubscrew.

    The shafts and O rings were as expected - covered in RTV. Ugly.
     
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    The saga is pretty much done. XR head and warm cam onto a CB250RS with a 1mm o's Wiseco.

    But it turned up some info which may be of use to others.
    Yes, the XR/XL head interchanges - But....
    The dirt bikes are tuned for torque and use different rocker ratios inlet to exhaust in order to get a shorter/lower inlet valve curve off the same profile used on the exhaust.The cam appears to be the same across all models.
    The CB250RS uses the same ratio rockers both sides - giving a higher lift longer duration on the inlets than the dirt versions.

    Now which came first is open for discussion. Did the dirt bike prototype need to be made less peaky ? Then when the road one was done someone said - "I know how to pep this thing up a bit "

    Irrelevant anyway. Just be aware that the 250RS heads are the better ones - and the rockers don't interchange.\

    And yes, they all crack...
     
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