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MC22 Track Ready Project

Discussion in 'Your 250cc Projects' started by Damus, May 11, 2015.

  1. Mclaren

    Mclaren Well-Known Member Contributing Member

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    For the gaskets bit of white grease to hold in place
    Filter go get some filter material from Clark rubber and cut to size
     
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    Damus She is a BEAST and riding it is comparable to sex Dirty Wheel Club

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    So I guess really with some massive help from Maelstrom (sorry to call you out) and Kiff of course.
    I have finally got my mc22 into a much MUCH more competitive and threatening state.
    Here is a video of a 0-100 I did once I started to get the fuel air reaaaaallly close to perfect.
    Current "power" setup

    stock sprockets 17 + 52 with neglected chain (my fault probably only cleaned & lubed it 3 times in total since owning the bike)

    Hiflowfiltro Air filter
    stock airbox

    x4 short velocity stacks
    x4 #108 main jets
    stock slow jets and needle configuration (no shim etc)
    Pilot screws at 1 & 5/8 turns out (I can get the screw mixture between all 4 cylinders much more accurate I was just rushing)
    Bench synced with .010 guitar string

    Cleanish intake ports, valves etc due to fuel additive

    Stock spark plugs nkg cr9eh9 gapped to EXACTLY 0.8mm

    Roo Racing straight through muffler with stock 4-1 rusty exhaust

    Electrical is all 100% stock except the lip on the disc inside the instrument cluster has been cut off that sets off the top speed restriction.
    The pickup coil its 40 ohm over the 420 ohm maximum recommendation by the manual but everything else is in spec

    secondary coils on the ignition coils are about 27k ohms with the caps on with yellow/blue going to 1 & 4 and blue/yellow going to 2 & 3 (I feel its necessary to mention that because secretly I think the CDI knows)

    And I am using 7100 motul oil at exactly half way on the stick reader when not screwed in.

    98 RON shell v power petrol (tank was fully filled)

    My weight with gear on when standing on scales is 70kg



    In the video when I actually did the 0-100 I clutchless shifted between first and second and it tried to slip out twice slowing me down, I can say even in the bikes current state I could have done better which was my fault but you be the judge.

    Things I am still planning on doing power wise:

    -New quality chain and sprockets replacement I will be going to 54 teeth with 136 link chain like stock cbr250r
    -Slightly advanced ignition timing using spark rotor/reluctor from factory pro
    -Tweak pilot jet screws so all 4 cylinders are equal
    -Quick turn throttle

    And that pretty much covers it for me power wise, wont be focusing on power directly after the above. Will be doing one last dyno to show results to all the would be power hungry mc22 owners.
     
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  3. maelstrom

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    Well I just give my two cents worth. Up to you what gets done. Full credit to you for being so persistent and willing to learn.
    cheers
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  4. Mclaren

    Mclaren Well-Known Member Contributing Member

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    With the 22 u need clutch for 1-2 they always it false if you don't
    Also exhaust better not being straight through the perform better with restrict to help back pressure
     
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    Initial D fan aye?;)
     
  6. Damus

    Damus She is a BEAST and riding it is comparable to sex Dirty Wheel Club

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    Oh totally, I love everything about it. I just wish they made a really good motorcycle equivalent.
     
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    Damus She is a BEAST and riding it is comparable to sex Dirty Wheel Club

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    So a very last minute decision was made and I have ended up going with the 110/70 & 140/70 Bridgestone R10 tyres
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    pretty much they are a great size, legal, they should be able to compete with the almighty supercoursa and they cost me 300$ a set including new valve stems, balance and align. Good guy, good service.

    Just gonna do some suspension work and it will be time to set some records.
     
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    great price damus, when are you heading to the track ?
     
  9. Damus

    Damus She is a BEAST and riding it is comparable to sex Dirty Wheel Club

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    Well, first taste will be within 2 months. Thinking briefly over it all it is something like:
    -waiting for reluctor to arrive
    -need to order front spring and rear shock
    -book in next available at eastern creek
    -do dyno while waiting for curiosity's sake

    There is also a production 250cc race coming up in november I overheard, I might join in just to show everyone what's what.
     
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    With these little bikes it is all about the rider. Simon challenges for the podium in the 400 class on his 250 and I don't recall him passing anyone on the straight in his videos. After reading his last race report though, it sounds like there are some fast guys appearing on the grid now.

    Speaking of first races, I won mine, which was a lot of fun, but I only did it to settle a bet. Didn't want to 'go racing'.
     
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    U have to see Simon enter and mid corner speed it is awesome to watch, Matty really close to him and @Glenn22 is on Simons heals non stop the proddie grid is strong and healthy and getting faster in mid pack the trick is seat time imagine Simon has done 1000 odd laps lol
     
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    Damus She is a BEAST and riding it is comparable to sex Dirty Wheel Club

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    I like to think skill doesn't require practise and that somewhere deep in us all there is a champion that can get lap record breaking times on the first try if we search deep within our soul.
    Surely I'm not the only one that thinks this! =p
     
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    If by seat time you mean laps on a racetrack then sorry, I have to disagree. Most winners don't start at the back. Have a look at the track history of any successful champion. Almost all of them come from dirt track or motocross and by the time they hit bitumen they are already seasoned winners. Guys that are fast turn up at a track and within an hour they are there. They do not need thousands of laps.
     
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    err Damus . . . I think you might be :)
     
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    Damus She is a BEAST and riding it is comparable to sex Dirty Wheel Club

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    It's an interesting topic to be honest.
    It's reminds me of when I first started playing guitar and people would say things like "if Hendrix can pick up a 20$ guitar and make it sound amazing then it's good enough for you" or "instead of trying to figure out x bands tone why don't you spend more time practicing 90% of tone is in the hands blah blah"

    These stereotypical go to statements on infinite loop.
    "What mods can I do to make my 250 go faster?"
    "Save your money for a bigger bike".

    I'm the type of person to exploit any possibility within any given rule set
    If that means I'm the only person out there who thinks of things like painting a radiator black or if a silencing your exhaust sound helps with over taking or why does a 2 stroke 250 have the second fastest lap time etc etc then I'm happy, happy that there is a right and wrong and that knowing the answer to the question means I'm faster without having to set foot on the track.
    The excellent thing about racing compared to music is it's not a matter of opinion, whoever wins is right.
    I put it to "whoever" that in the amateur scene the bike is just as important as the rider and that theoretical man hours are just as valuable as practical man hours.
    #borderlinecrazy
    I guess we will see.
     
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    Ur right maelstrom but in saying that ppl like stoner mm etc started at 3/4 years old not 20 something the fear factor can play in we have jobs etc
    If someone wants to pay my wage for a year to race a bike I would win or crash trying to win but when u hit a age where this is club racing taking a year (6 race meets) to take your time and learn your craft isn't major at the end u get a plastic trophy and mayb a voucher
    Go back to work on Monday
    But look at mm he is faster now then when he entered gp that is seat time they don't hand him a bike at free practice 1 at rd1 in his first season and say win
    They test get setup right and he has mechanics all around who know there stuff I have me my beer and a night here and there to change my setup to make it work
     
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    Damus She is a BEAST and riding it is comparable to sex Dirty Wheel Club

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    Quick update,

    So out of all the jobs that make you want to curl up into a ball and die a full carb clean, repair and rebuild is by far the longest and painstaking I have had so far. heres some photos.
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    and... does it run ?
     
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    Damus She is a BEAST and riding it is comparable to sex Dirty Wheel Club

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    Yeah she runs =) carb clean and rebuild was a successful mission, took my time and got it right.
     
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    and the tapity tap tap... is that gone ?
     

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