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Across. I killed it.

Discussion in 'Suzuki 250cc In-line 4's' started by InvaderIMD, Aug 6, 2016.

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  1. Linkin

    Linkin The Mechanic Premium Member Contributing Member Dirty Wheel Club

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    If the front wheel bearings seized it would have been like grabbing the front brake. All the weight would transfer to the front and you'd fall off in a snap. It sounds more like your steering head bearings were super loose
     
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    Ive tightened down a steering stem too tightly before and had a slight left to right to left feel in the steering, but you travelled some distance the day before so like Linkin said the head bearings/ locknut have loosened
     
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    your description sounds like a flat rear tyre, I've had more than a few deflating rear tyres make themselves known at 60kms or more, the bike swims just like you describe and can go down easily
    Damn tradies, builders and rubbish trucks letting their bits fall on the road, screws always seemed to make there way into my rear tyres
     
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    wow! good for you.

    can i ask why you are set on the across?

    are you on Ls/Ps ? if so, how much time left do you have
     
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    The glove box is the best thing on a bike ever.

    Yer in my L's. I can go for my P's in 3 weeks or so. BUT...

    Just whent for a short ride on my partners bike. I freaked out with in 500meaters
    Turned arround and walked the bike back home. FUC.K.
     
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  6. InvaderIMD

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    The fuc.k do I do now?

    I Rilly want a new bike. But if Im scared of the bike veering slightly.

    Note. Im not scared of the bike doing what it is ment to do.
    But im still freeaking? THE FUC.K!!!
     
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  7. Linkin

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    Try to relax. You want to be relaxed in your upper body and loose grip on the handlebars. Grip the tank with your legs and/or push down on the footpegs. Focus on looking as far ahead as possible and anticipate the curves. Practice doing left and right hander turns. Again always look where you want to go. Look at the ground and that's where you'll end up.

    Above about 15km/h (it varies from bike to bike) you want to counter steer. Want to go left? Push the left handlebar away from you and watch the bike fall in to the left. You do this as you look around the corner to where you want to be. Get fixated on something and that's what you'll hit.
     
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  8. my67xr

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    What bike does your partner have ?
    I think the seating position on the Across you have a slight lean toward's the tank like the FZR250, it's a bit more up right than a lot of sportsbike's.
    I am on my L's too, and haven't ridden a sportsbike before my FZR, almost all my experience was offroad.
    It doesn't take long to get used to the countersteering, i've only done about 500km's on mine so far in the last couple of month's with the wet weather lately, and i'm liking it a lot more now than when i first started on it
     
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  9. InvaderIMD

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    Hey yer my partner has a CF moto 150 leader...was my first bike.

    He bought that off me.
    That gave me enough to get the Across.

    I have done some more research in to getting back on a bike after a crash...its just going to take time...
     
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    I suggest you leave it for awhile ..... let the mind settle

    Riding is all about confidence ...... when a little of your confidence returns then go find a nice quiet spot and go for a few test rides where theres no traffic and u can go at your own pace.
     
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    And from someone who has done a lot of crashing, so long as you know why you crashed, all is good.
    That is the advice that Terry Kelly, then QLD 350 champion and all round good bloke gave to me after I crashed whilst fighting for the lead in one of my few races. Of course at the time I was a young, arrogant moron on whom such sound advice was completely wasted. However, it stayed with me and served me well in later life. :)

    And I second what Mr Grey said. Don't ride a motorcycle if you lack confidence.
     
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    Well this is my 4th motobike crash. Opps
    But is my worst. So far.
    Any how. I may be 21 but im in no way a hoon. I would only wish the insurance company would treat me as a person that was riding the bike properly. not of an L plater that crashed a bike.

    They did not even look for mechanical reasons for the crash. Which they have to do for cars.

    Does any one wants to see a short vid of me after the crash?
     
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    Did the mechanic mention to you that the tyre's were flat when you picked up the bike after having the front wheel bearing's replaced and new rear rotor fitted?
    They should have told you to go to a tyre place and have them checked out asap, could have been a puncture or 2, or slow leak etc, and i would have thought they'd pump up the tyre to standard pressure rating for the bike as well or call you and explain about the flat tyre and to ask what pressure you run, any decent mechanic would have.
    If not, i would have thought they'd have a legal duty to inform you, and if not you would also have a decent law case against the mechanic.
    For them to tell you after the accident that the tyre/s was flat when they worked on it prove's they knew about it.

    If the rear tyre was low on pressure then it'd cause the rear end of the bike to feel very strange, you'd have to compensate for it through the steering to keep it straight, i guess it'd be similar to what riding a motorcycle on ice would feel like
    If the pressure was low enough in the rear tyre and you went around the corner, the cornering force's one of the tyres' bead away from the rim, this would have lost more air pressure again
    Then as you went to accelerate away from the corner and "lost power", i'm guessing the tyre was spinning in the rim due to having no air in it
    The tyre may have also locked up against the chain or swingarm etc too which wouldn't have helped
     
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    Hey. Thanks for the info.

    The macanic said the frount tire was about 3 years old. But still in riding condition.
    And as of this point boath tires are hard and dont seem to be flat/low on presure

    Even with my partners brother (harley type big boy) sitting on the bike ther is no flat spot in the tires.
     
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    Ok, that dismiss's my thought's above then
    The front and rear wheel's are still tight, axle's and nut's etc ?
    Hold the wheel and push/pull the swingarm, same at the front but hold the fork's
    Rear brake caliper or disc isn't loose ?
     
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