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Discussion Bike Photo's, rare, different, modified, standard, and just plain wrong, etc etc

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by my67xr, Jul 27, 2018.

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    Oh the poor bike. That has put me off my dinner. :lolsign:
     
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    So they have gone to a lot of trouble to make an offset lower triple clamp to get the rake out that far.. but they just screw the horn on anywhere and cant get the dent out of the exhaust pipe????
    Looking at that I think on full lock the bottom fork clamp would go very close to hitting the radiator pipes...
    It shouldn't be allowed.
     
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    Offset bottom triple clamp? I can't tell from the pics but that is unridable if true. The steering point would follow the wheel instead of wheel following steering. Also the steering head of the frame will swing up into the air as the weird arc is made when 'turning'. I do believe that someone is stupid enough to do it though, saw it once before on a chopper that was a 'show bike'.
     
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    Apparently it is quite popular on Harleys in the USA. They do it to get the trail back to something that may actually work when they modify the rake angle. They mention it in the link below.
    It looks like the bottom triple is offset in the first picture.. or, they have done a massive cut and shut to get that rake angle.. maybe both. Either way it doesnt look good and I doubt it would handle well.

    https://www.rbracing-rsr.com/rakeandtrail.html
     
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    From that reference, "Trying to make these art forms work, people resort to putting a different rake in the triple clamps than is in the steering head in an attempt to bring the trail back into line. "
    I know what they are trying to say. Let me fix it.
    "Because these morons are incapable, or too lazy, to alter the rake angle, they try to do it with bolt on 'raked triples'. They are sometimes also deluded into thinking that this will somehow balance out the enormous trail figures that choppers have (great for stability but not so good for agility). In fact what will happen is that trail will become negative and any attempt to ride will result in a death wobble. If they really wanted to deal with the trail issue then they need to mount the front axle on rocker arms."

    What they are doing is like trying to steer a shopping trolley wheel when the wheel is in front of the cart leg instead of behind it. It is stupidity beyond description.
     
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    Hard to tell from the photo, but the fork clamps look to have zero offset to compensate for the trail bike forks leading axel mounts.
    The twin triple piston calipers on the single disc are just overkill.
     
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    They kind of look like extended Boulevard or Intruder 1800cc fork's with a 9 degree tripple clamp's, Maybe late GSXR fork's ?
     
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    I'd like to see the steering head angle, rake, and trail numbers for that... thing...
     
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    You guys invested too much effort into it. I saw it and went "ugly. Next." I might be biased because of what it was, but I didn't bother trying to decide if it would work or not. Besides, it's a cruiser, no one expects them to work in corners, do they? :-D :p
     
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    Haha, my fault I guess. But yes, I agree it is rubbish and probably shouldn’t have this much time spent on it


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    How to ruin a perfectly good bike.

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    I'm pretty sure those front forks weren't designed for that job. I'd love to see that bike in an emergency braking situation!
     
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    I think the trail may just be slightly out of spec as well. Some people should be banned from going near anything that isn’t a Harley.
    Nobody cares about them anyway.


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