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Bought an X7 today

Discussion in 'Suzuki 250cc 2 Strokes' started by GraemeK, Mar 18, 2014.

  1. GraemeK

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    Bought an original and complete X7 today. Seems like a nice thing but it is quite different from the earlier models which I have previously owned with respect to the motor. Anyone have insights into the differences and opinions as to the advantages or disadvantages of the new motor design?
     
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    Enlighten me mate, what vintage have you purchased, can you post a picture up for me.


    Check out Ace of Sprays site, go to Suzuki and you will see my X7 after Bob resprayed her.

    http://aceofsprays.com.au/category/suzuki-2/
     
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    Hi Phil. Mine is a 1979 model. Unfortunately I do not have any photos as it is in transit at the moment.
     
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    Guess I'll just have to wait. Is your in running order or is it a resto?? I do have a few parts available if required. Parts are plentiful on ebay UK, good luck with it mate. :thumb_ups:
     
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    Thanks Phil. From the photos in the add its rough but in working order other than one of the carbs floods all the time - probably like every other old bike I pull apart where some goose has tried to adjust the float level by bending the float arms rather than the tang that actuates the float needle. On my TRZ the floats were so distorted that they were jamming on the float bowel.
     
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    Hi Phil
    Tried to post these a while ago but this forum does not work properly using Safari on my Mas so I had to start up Fire Fox to make the photo thing work

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    Looks a lot better than mine when I purchased it, same colour as yours but went for the red when bike was painted.
    In your travels, should you come across a master cylinder let me know as mine is u/s. Yours look to be the later model than mine, instrument cluster is different and mine has spoke wheels.
    Look forward to watching your progress mate, good luck.:thumb_ups:
     
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    Hi Phil - Thats really interesting.
    In 1978 there were were both GT250 C that had spoked wheels and GT250 x7 that had cast wheels but from my limited and rapidly fading memory I never saw an X7 with wire wheels. I would love to see a photo of your bike. To be honest I would prefer to have spoked wheels despite the hassle of having to re spoke them and replace the rims but you take what you can get. If yours is a 1978 250C then its the most powerful 205 air cooled motor that Suzuki made producing 32hp according to the original sales brochures and then when they re designed the motor and added reed valves the power dropped to 29hp. So you end up with more power and spoked wheels. A win win situation really
     
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    in the late 60,s a friend had a suzuki 250. would this be the same engine as phil,s as it flew. think was called a hussler?
     
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    Hi Risky - 250 Suzuki's are sort of broken up into 5 phases.
    First-- were T250 which were released in the early sixties.
    Second-- were cosmetically updated T250 which were called Hustler in some markets in the later sixties.
    Third-- was the first GT 250 which had the Ram Air cover on the heads and shared the original design with earlier models and were released in about 1972.
    Forth -- was the GT250A which was released in 1976 and had redesigned cylinder porting which changed the stud pattern for the cylinders. This model lasted for 3 years 76A, 77B, 78C but there not many 78C models as the completely different GT250 X7 was released
    Fifth-- In 1978 the first GT250 X7 were released and this motor is a complete redesign of both the cylinders and lower cases as it uses inlet reed valves mounted at the base of the cylinders and ported directly into the crank cases
     
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    Mine falls in the 78 category, reed valves but mine has spoke wheels which doesn't seem very common.
    It started it's life in blue but Bob at Ace of Sprays painted to my spec in red, great job.
    Check Bob's site out Graeme, click on Suzuki and you'll find my 400 Bandit v and also my X7.
     
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    Hi Phil- Looks real nice. I will have to search around and see if I can find a set of spoked wheels. I guess its even possible that the wheels from a 76- 77 model would fit. Will have to look into it next time I am visiting my son who has a GT250A
     
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    Hello .....please excuse me for hyjacking this old thread but i am after information about my 1978 x7 .... please see picture.
    I have been told these with spoke wheels were the very first off the production line, and they were using up the last if the earlier gt wheels, is there any truth to this.
    And if so is it worth more then a later model with alloy wheels ....
    Any info is greatly appreciated.
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    Ask @Phil as he had one with spoked wheels. It also sounds like your X7 has GT250C wheels on it (see below).

    A few posts up @GraemeK said...

    "Hi Phil - That's really interesting. In 1978 there were were both GT250C that had spoked wheels and GT250 x7 that had cast wheels but from my limited and rapidly fading memory I never saw an X7 with wire wheels. I would love to see a photo of your bike. To be honest I would prefer to have spoked wheels despite the hassle of having to re spoke them and replace the rims but you take what you can get. If yours is a 1978 250C then its the most powerful 250 air cooled motor that Suzuki made producing 32hp according to the original sales brochures and then when they re-designed the motor and added reed valves the power dropped to 29hp. So you end up with more power and spoked wheels. A win win situation really".
     

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