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Discussion in 'Other Projects - Other Bikes (non 250's)' started by Linkin, May 30, 2020.

  1. Linkin

    Linkin The Mechanic Premium Member Contributing Member Dirty Wheel Club

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    Just clocked 11000km on the bike, no chance of selling it soon @maelstrom :)

    Did another oil/filter change and chain service, now off to the Easter show with wifey.

    Got an air filter, plugs, and bits needed to repair the QS system on the way. Will do all that when the bits arrive. I've already done one coolant and brake fluid change as I don't trust the stuff that comes from the factory - you never know how long it's been sitting on the shelf before it gets used.

    Still planning on a seat from MJM in Goulburn and Woolich tune/race tools but haven't had the budget. Soon...
     
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    Good for you mate. You're out there racking up the miles. Don't worry about what grumpy old farts say :)
     
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    Ended up replacing both tyres after another puncture :( Oh well, the Rosso Corsa II's were getting on a bit. New set of Rosso III's fitted, with a 120/65 profile front. Standard 180/55 rear. Also reset my suspension settings to standard for a direct test against another 09SP with 120/70 profile Rosso III on the front. The 120/70 is taller and tippier, the 120/65 is not as tall and not as tippy, but it initiates turns quicker and holds your line without wanting to fall into the corner more than you want to. I find it to be better, happy with my choice.

    I have serviced two other 09SP's at work recently which really made me miss my quickshifter, so I have finally ordered a new clutch switch. I hope it's just the switch, otherwise it will be a warranty job on the QS, which means back to the dealer.
     
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    I think I know why you went for that tyre: I bought 2 of them!
     
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    So I've put a new set of Rosso III's on in 120/65 and 180/55. The front makes a big difference in agility and the way it holds a line. Easier turning and no longer wants to fall into corners as much. Better.t

    I've been having minor niggles with very low rpm stalling when coming to a stop and taking off again quickly. Word on the MT forums is the charcoal canister. So today I have removed it entirely. The catalytic converter is gone already so keeping the canister is a moot point.

    I also cut and plugged the secondary air hose on airbox and solenoid sides, this is to reduce/eliminate popping on deceleration. About to go for a test ride and see how it is.
     
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    Service day, fuel consumption has been annoying me. Barely 120-140km to reserve (which is still 3-4 litres left) in city commuting. It was better when I first bought the bike.

    I did the oil & filter, spark plugs, air filter, throttle balance, reset mixture adaptions.

    Std plugs are CPR9EA-9 nickel type. They are projected - the 'P' in the suffix - The laser platinum I replaced them with (CR9EIA-9) are non-projected. Given that my Yamaha isn't an old Ducati that religiously fouls plugs if you look at it wrong, I don't think the projected type plug is a necessity.

    The laser platinums are much better than the standard nickel alloy plugs anyway. For those interested, the difference between Iridium (eg CR9EIX) and Laser Platinum (eg CR9EIA-9) is that the Iridiums are considered a 'performance' spark plug and the Laser Platinums are considered a 'long-life' plug. Both have an iridium tip and a platinum base on the other side, the difference is in the construction. According to NGK, both are rated for 30,000 miles.

    Standard OEM air filter was well past done after a year of riding. Replaced with a Hiflofiltro OEM replacement. I am doing a long term test to verify a hypothesis, that being that K&N or oiled style filters will always eventually get oil and therefore dirt into the filtered side / throttle body assembly. Something which I see all the time while servicing bikes.

    Throttle balance was not needed but I adjusted anyway. Based on the readings I saw, my valve clearances are in good shape so hopefully I won't have to touch them for a long time.
     
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    We are worried about fuel consumption, but not the plug type? It might be just 2-3mm, but it might make a difference to the burn character. No "poisoning" of an O2 sensor or something like that throwing your calibrations out? Too much free play in the right wrist?? I guess air filter first, see if you get any improvement.
     
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    Finally got the camera sorted on my phone so I can take pictures again. Just a wash and show off of the tank pads and rad guard. Exhaust needs some love.

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    Some comfort/ergonomic related jobs done today.

    Rubberised footpegs, advertised as FZ6 style. Cheap copies and I had to 'massage' them with the bench grinder to get them to sit straight, but they work.

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    Second job - Handlebar risers. They are +15mm height and 30mm pullback. The supplied bolts are junk which will be replaced. I did have to remove a rubber grommet and its bracket on the front brake hose to get enough slack for this to work. I also had to re-route the clutch cable and throttle cables as they both went taught at full lock in the standard arrangement.

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    OY, what about turbo - I was down at Extreme Creations last week

    "It makes really good power" - he ain't joking 16Lbs boost at the moment and it puts out 245HP in it's current incarnation - it is road registered :prankster:

     
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    Well I finally got the Woolich Tune and Race tools done and fitted! Took it to RB Racing in Caringbah for the work - came highly recommended. Dropped off one afternoon, picked up the next.

    So, what do you actually get? Well it's not a piggyback fuel system - we are directly altering the OEM ECU, so many more parameters are available. I also purchased the race tools so I have that as well.

    Features available for Yamaha MT-09 SP 2018-2020
    • IAP Fuel Maps
    • TPS Fuel Maps
    • Ignition Timing Maps
    • Ignition Dwell Map/s
    • Electronic Throttle Valve (ETV) Maps
    • Coolant Temp Idle Compensation
    • Acceleration Enrichment
    • Injector Timing Map/s
    • Adjust RPM Limiter
    • Adjust Fan Temperature
    • Quickshifter - (Requires Race Tools)
    • Autoblipper - (Requires Race Tools)
    • Launch Control - (Requires Race Tools)
    • Pit Lane Limiter - (Requires Race Tools)
    • Engine Warm Up - (Requires Race Tools)
    • Race Shift Pattern Sensor Configuration - (Requires Race Tools)
    • Disable Stock O2 Sensor
    • Disable Deceleration Fuel Cut
    • Disable PAIR Valve / AIS
    • Disable Top Speed Limiter
    • Engine Data - View Live Engine Data
    • Woolich Racing AutoTune - (Requires Applicable LogBox + Zeitronix Package)
    • Diagnostics: Read and Clear Fault Codes - (Requires Applicable V3 Interface)

    On the dyno sheet, it's gone from 100.66hp to 106.11hp. Torque - 56.82ft/lb before and 59.79 after. (Dynojet 250i, correction factor 1.03 STD). It was breaking down under load initially at around 80-90hp, now no longer.

    AFR's cleaned up - idle to 3k is no longer lean. 6k and above is no longer rich. Target AFR appears to be 13.2:1

    Power in 5th and 6th was restricted to 90hp, this has been removed and full power is available

    Looking at AFR vs Speed, it was all over the place and has been cleaned up considerably.


    It feels much better. On/off throttle jerkiness gone. Surging on partial decel gone. Stalling after stopping quickly and taking off again is fixed. Lumpy / boggy feeling down low completely gone.

    O2 sensor as been deleted.

    The quickshifter with autoblipper is also amazing... I'm addicted...
     
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    So your bike idles like there's something wrong: going from idle to 3,000rpm and back? Heard one at the track on the weekend, thought it had a fuel issue or something
     
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    They come lean from the factory for emissions purposes
     
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    Interested to hear your impression of the Woolich Tune software if you've hooked it up to have a looksee at the maps/parameters etc.

    What was $$ cost of the software? Did you purchase a loom to go with it etc?
     
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    The woolich stuff is dealer based, in this case the dealer being the tuner. You can however download the tuning software for free but you need the logbox and wide band kit to tune it. My setup is O2 deleted so it's a dyno based tune

    The total price for the software, hardware install/wiring and tuning was $1695.
     
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    Just did a first service on a '21 model. Build date 8/21. Very freshly built bike. Did some preload adjustments for the customer, he came back to get his logbook stamped and said it felt great! Love a happy customer.

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    I did a bit of reading as to what's required, I think the log box is optional for if you want to log then tune, but their loom is necessary.

    But you got the dealer to do the tune via Dyno.
    Very impressive improvements ~5%+, but not unheard of given that all of the mapping and other variables are for best fit, not unlike an off the rack suit, now you've got a tailor made suit [tune] for your bike.

    Does your bike have a timing retard in the lower gears ignition maps?
    I know that the GSXR750 I had was a bit of a grouchy bear at low speed, in the lower gears until I discovered something called a Timing retard eliminator, which mapped 6th gear ignition timing maps to gears 1 & 2, that and a balance of the butterfiles made it silky smooth right from idle

    I wish I had known about OEM ECU remapping at that time...
     
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    The only restrictions I know are overall speed limit, and power limit in 5th and 6th. Not sure if they use timing or controlling the ETV (throttle valve) to limit.
     
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    New tyres again. Rosso 3's didn't last as long as the previous Corsa 2's. Went with Rosso 4's in 120/70 and 190/55. I went back to the 120/70 profile because the Rosso 4's aren't available in 120/65, so I compensated by raising the forks by 10mm in the triples. I went for the 190 rear because it's a 5 compound against the 3 compound of the 180.

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    Been riding around all day, happy with the feel and setup.

    Also did new chain and sprockets, RK 525 GXW in black with gold pins and rollers and RK sprockets in standard gearing (16/45) - sorely needed as the OEM chain was not good. Feels much better.
     
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