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Discussion New bikes, pfft.

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by maelstrom, Oct 1, 2019.

  1. maelstrom

    maelstrom LiteTek Staff Member Premium Member 250cc Vendor Contributing Member

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    So I was reading an online article about the new R1, but about halfway in it is just an endless stream of paragraphs describing electronic aids. ".. and you can switch to this and that and it will help you to do everything etc etc"
    I will take the old one please.

    Here is the first R1
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    and the 2020
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    My biggest complaint with new bikes is that the quality feels like it's just cheap ****

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    Maybe we are just all grumpy old farts, or that might just be me :)
     
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    I'm 23 sooo must definitely be you

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    I think its mainly directed at the popularity of the 'track day' , 'superbike school' type of thing to assist the wannabes .... and also that alot of racing is based on production spec bikes including WSBK

    Even my 675 has lap timing and data logging built into the dash

    As Ive mentioned before ... I think it was Stoner who turned off most of the "rider aids"

    Im the chief of grumpy old farts ... so that club is well established here :aggressive:
     
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    23? Damn Tony, you do some good work for a young fella!
     
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    I have ridden a few modern bikes and I do like them, I would own a z900rs tomorrow if the budget allowed. I still prefer older ones. Can’t wait to hear my gt380 in the hills
     
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    That's why the decent 'older bikes' will always be classics...
     
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    Thanks Blair haha. Helps when dad is a fitter machinist and diesel mechanic. Learned it all from him from a young age . And my trade is a panel beater and spray painter so that also helps.


    Love the look of the z900rs . Hopefully by the time I'm fully licenced they'll be a bit more affordable
     
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    Well there's a coincidence, brilliant. I watched the video too. It reminds me of the stuff I have done to my R4 project to get the suspension in and the messing about to support the subframe. I hope he goes ahead with the original Fireblade.
     
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    OOH Boxer loves his Blades - he's already stuck a turbo on one and he's fuel injected another - I believe it was a '92 Blade that got the fuel injection - the guy can also really ride, used to be a stunt rider - the one that can do ridiculous wheelies, burnouts, stoppies etc and he's won a South Australian road racing championship, or perhaps two, not sure which class though - I'll ask him this weekend when I see him at the ASBK in Philip Island

    Yamaha basically gave him the R1 and I believe paid for the work and the CEO from Japan came along to be photographed with Mark and the CEO of Yamaha Australia - that's impressive PR credentials
     
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    New bikes are easy. Just fuel and go. They do most things well and depending on the manufacturer, their build quality can be terrible to awesome, but... they very rarely have any character. The exception being the odd throw back (like the z900rs) that reminds us of another time. I don't mind riding either old or new. Each has something to offer the rider me thinks.
     
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    The worst thing about new bikes is that they are not made to work on... they are made to look good, perform well and for ease of assembly by machine - not disassembly by man!
     
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    That goes for cars too! :confused:
     
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    Great, maybe the factories will consider this as meaningful rather than getting their styling cues from morons butchering their bikes with angle grinders and kids with robot toys.
     
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    I was going to say perhaps they should get an Italian, someone from Ducati perhaps, however I just checked and even the Ducatis have lost their flowing lines and sublime curves, not quite as angular as some bikes; the KTM RC8 though

    And KTM did this gorgeous masterpiece

    KTM+FRR+250+H.Aoyama+2007+02.jpg
     
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    Cannot see the point of all this work. Why did he not just put a set of old model fairings on a new bike? Then it would still look like an old one with modern internals.
     
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    From what I know, Forsaeti aftermarket parts were involved, and they're affiliated with, or owned by Yamaha Australia, and the idea as pitched needed to be a good story, that being said, Mark does like to overdo things, I mean who puts a turbo on a CBR900RR

    This gives you an idea of how fastidious he can be - no-one could ever accuse him of having idle hands

    http://hoontv.com.au/rehashed-racer/
     
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    KTM are definitely up there for the most hideous bikes in the universe award.
     

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