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Info New Honda CBR250RR Code named K64A

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  1. kiffsta

    kiffsta Senior Member

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    A Honda CBR250RR is reported to be unveiled at the 2015 Tokyo Motor Show next month. It is a fiercer version of the existing Honda CBR250R that has been speculated by publications of several markets including Japan. The upcoming model is believed to be codenamed ‘Honda K64A.

    Rumours are that its going to be a twin cylinder with projector headlights (pics are just renderings or what they think will be released, not actual pics from Honda.)

    Kiff


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    Linkin The Mechanic Premium Member Contributing Member Dirty Wheel Club

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    Call me a quitter, but I would sell all my old bikes and buy a new one in a heart beat if they brought out new 250cc inline 4's that are fuel injected
     
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    Phil Senior Member Contributing Member

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    You and a million others......one has to ponder what the Japanese manufacturers are or are not thinking ?
     
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    Well, the only hope on the horizon is the ZX250R from Kawasaki , rumours are that it will be unveiled at the Tokyo motor show
     
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    Nice Suzuki-

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    And typical Uglisaki, theyve topped their Ninja 800 and H2r with this abomination-

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    Hoping all of them don't do whaat Yamaha did with my R3 and give them 42hp and 321cc,
    because I still cant race it :(

    OR I want to see the irony in Motorcycling Australia and Industry racing circles if the Kawasaki is a power and CC increase, and suddenly a change of heart about parity.
     
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    Still be a twin thou
     
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    They should just make a 300 Triple. Enough cc's to appease the people who think 250s aren't good enough, and enough cylinders to make everyone happy.
     
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    I'd rather $6490 ride away twins and singles,
    can get a new one every two years if anything goes wrong or something new comes out I like,
    and now they are so good I wont have the skill to outride one in my life time.
     
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    Well what has really changed on the 250cc twin and single bikes? I mean, fuel injection was the big one. There's still zero racing pedigree and nothing really except styling changes. Those bikes are designed to be efficient and the easiest/cost effective to manufacturer. But is it what most consumers want? Well ask anyone with a carb'd bike and they'd happily trade it in for one with FI. I know I would!
     
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    They are so capable for very little money, 40hp, handle well, bulletproof and 190kph
    Cant find any vices with my R3 yet apart from the junk Michelins which were removed.
    It would smash my MC22 is every single way :)
     
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    Think u should bring ur r3 to Morgan park mate lol
     
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    I get Brando to take one there :)

    Im off to the Drags next month, and Back to Barbs for some laps.
    Its already quick, but I can go faster this time, and Barbs saps the power out of a bike with its elevation.
     
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    It would be pretty dismal of Yamaha *not* to "smash" the MC22. The MC22 is what, 26 years old and the engine is over 30 years old? No one is saying the R3's are bad bikes, but they could make much better bikes. The styling of small displacement modern bikes has only now started to look half decent but they still lack character for me. All of my friends turfed their 250cc bikes as soon as possible (they had Ninja's) but the ol' MC22 was always a head turner. It had something special about it. It didn't need to be the best because it had the allure of speed. It's great that they're paying attention to small bikes but it would be nice if they were as adventurous with engine design as they used to be (I mean, gear driven cams are pretty awesome). But like I said, for them it's the best bike for the cheapest price and that's what people have to pick from.
     
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    MC22 was $10,990 plus on road costs in 1996, a cbr600 was cheaper.
    I paid $6990 for a FZR600, and $13k for a yzf750 (it was the 2015 R1 of today)

    That is eleventy billion Dollaaaarz today.
    One that made 45hp and passed emmisions without massive holes in the powerband,
    weighed 160kg wet without ABS in 2016 would be 1000cc Superbike prices.
    The market isnt there for them to any cheaper.

    The only reason MC22's are common as a clit in Straya is the market dumping 15 yrs ago, and they are $2-3k on the Lams market.
     
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    It used to be that the only 4 cylinder road bike with gear driven cams was an MV Agusta. Then Honda did it on the NC30. To do it on a 250 is just outrageous.
     
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    VFR400 was around $22,000

    CBX250, CB250RS and other comparable cooking model 250's were $2-2500.
    One day someone will explain to me why they compare MC41's to MC22's because ive never got my head around that old chestnut.
     
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    The VFR400 sold in the UK (1990) for £5899 new. I am not aware of any other countries that it was sold as an official import. Where was it $22000?
     
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    The 250 and 400 fours were only developed to that peak because of restrictive capacity limits in Japan. They were never meant to be sold as cheap learners bikes in Australia. Fast forward 25 years and most of these bikes are in an absolutely disgusting state. Just go through this site and have a look at the examples of oil and brake fluid changes. The only time that these bikes get their brake fluid changed is when the brakes malfunction. They have not been maintained and a succession of inexperienced owners have added insult to injury. It is human nature to blame the machine but I think @kiffsta is strong evidence that if you know what you are doing you can still pick up these bikes for a song give them a once over and get them back on the road. Most learners should not be looking to buy a 25 year old, highly strung 250 as a first bike, and now that there is a range of new 250 singles and twins to fill this role it may leave these classic motorcycles to those who appreciate them and have the skills to maintain them.

    I think the reason that comparisons are made with the MC41 is that is labelled as the CBR250R. I imagine there are a lot of CBR owners of various displacements who find that a bit lame given that CB250R would be more suitable.
    cheers
     
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