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Project Newbie, FZR250 Project

Discussion in 'Your 250cc Projects' started by beano, Oct 6, 2016.

  1. Murdo

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    The shock spring will be under a lot of tension, so you will need the right spring compressor to hold it while you unscrew the top mount from the shaft.
    That swingarm looks to be painted. Would need to paint the whole arm to look presentable.
     
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    The front and rear section's of the frame are raw cast,
    the centre flat section's of the frame and swing arm are originally a brushed alloy finish it all get's welded together, dressed then clear anodised.
    You could try wiping it over with some all purpose thinner's and a couple of clean rag's to get that paint off
     
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    It is a pretty easy process to remove the spring.... you do need to compress the spring and the bottom spring mount is split and fits into a groove in the piston rod.
    As it is gas filled shock absorber I am not sure if you are able to disassemble any further for plating etc... but you can get in there and clean it all up... and there are some good metallic paints that closely resemble Cad plating... might be an option for you.
    The swing arms are painted (it comes off with paint stripper) in what appears to be an aluminium paint...plenty of options for that out there too.
     
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    keep your eyes open on both ebay and gumtree - they do come up, and going price is in the $120 - $160 range
     
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    That one from the US probably would have been OK on price... no time to get an estimate on shipping... all I need is weight and size.. I use a couple of different services from the US.
    I must keep an eye open for the same thing then.. that would look good on the SRX when it finally gets built.. .:)
     
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    Nice work @beano. Did you see my carb rebuild guide? And you are right I made these kits for people like us who want to do a comprehensive job.
    Cheers
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    yup, printed it out and had it beside me the whole time, absolutely invaluable, the only issue i had with the kit was i couldn't get the choke seals on properly as they were too tight, but the originals were ok so i just left them on. now if we could only get the needle situation resolved we'd have our fzr's running forever :D is the fix still being worked on??

    i think i read somewhere before and im sure it was on @GreyImport fizzer thread where he cleaned up the frame nicely with a brillo pad, but that threads like 50 pages long now and cant be arsed trawling through it again at the moment.

    back to the shock situation and i have spring compressors here already from changing shocks in the car so might just clean it up as best i can and see how it goes, the r6 mod does look tempting but will have to look into it a bit more, not sure on modifying the dog bones as it may effect the geometry of the bike, will have to look into it more.............
     
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    Yes, the fix is still on the agenda but Christmas and a spending binge has delayed my lathe purchase.
     
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    It was that new car for the boss.... be honest :)
     
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    I confess, guilty as charged.
     
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    Sometimes a sacrifice has to be made for the greater good..;)
     
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    Got some goodies in the post there over the last week or so, got my fork seals and headstock bearings also decided to go with the r6 shock in the end, so just waiting for that to be delivered and can start building the bike up again, so just a few questions for those in the know.

    What weight for oil do ye recommend to stiffen the front up a bit??

    i had a look thorough the service manual supplement and found the following specs:

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    im assuming google translate is correct and i can say the following:

    oil volume - 390cm
    oil level - 112mm from top
    fork spring length - 559.6mm

    hopefully will get the time to go at them this week and have a rolling chassis for next week, bike is looking a bit sad at the moment:

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    i have another question now regarding the headstem bearings, the ones that i ordered are the tapered type whilst the stock bearings are the loose ball bearing type. i have previous experience changing tapered headstock bearings in my R1 so just want to double check something before i start.

    as seen in the pic below, the original ball bearings sit on a seal that is approximately flush with the top of the frames cast, thus when the bearings are placed they would be above the frame so to speak.

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    would i be right in saying that i then remove this seal and drive the new tapered set inside the frame so it sits flush with the top of the casting??

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    i have measured approximately the depth of this collar inside the frame tube pictured above and it seems to correspond with the height of the new bearings that i was supplied so im reasonably sure that the new set does in fact go inside rather than sitting on top like the old set but just want to be sure before i start. The bearings i did previously on the R1 have a nice shoulder inside the tube that you drive the replacements into hence the confusion on my part.
     
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    There is a shoulder under that bearing cup (you can see it in photo) that the new tapered cone will sit against.
     
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    and just to back up a bit i said id throw up a few pics of the rear end i did a few posts ago


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    Obviously you can’t tell these things from the outside but as you can see from the pics I was pessimistic as to the state of what I would find inside, but it turned out the bearings were in really good nick, spun nicely, not too loud and didn’t feel gritty at all, so I just cleaned them up and re-greased them.


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    then moved on to cleaning up the shock, I cleaned it up as best I could, but after scrubbing off all the muck it turned out to be pretty goosed. unsurprisingly for an almost 30-year-old shock the chrome had worn off the rod and it had begun to rust.





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    Ready for reassembly


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