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  1. GreyImport

    GreyImport Administrator Staff Member The Chief Contributing Member

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    I have a couple of questions directed at the brains trust here as Ive not been able to find answers elsewhere .... nothing to do with bikes

    Does anyone know of an in car unit/gps/tablet app than runs a weather station / rain radar ..... I know theres phone apps but I am looking for something that runs on satellite/gps
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    I know theres sat weather available in the USA and also things for marine and aero , but they are a little expensive
    I know theres also gps usb sticks but dont know if they could be utilised for something like this

    This looked interesting ...

    http://www.severestorms.com.au/index.php/faq-s/equipment

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    Also I have just fitted these to the Land Cruiser but need to figure out how to use the harness they came with to have them triggered by the high beam .... just to make it a little more complicated , Land Cruisers are negatively switched

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    With the spotlight wiring tap the earth for the spotlight relay off your orignal high beams' earth
     
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    Yea usually the trick is supposedly on a basic relay u just have to change a couple of the wires positions on it with neg switching but this has everything plugged and a closed relay setup which I was trying to keep

    I think what your saying is what this diagram shows .... I hate electrics

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    I thought connect this earth to one of the earth's on your high beam.
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    So run the earth from the relay to the pink wire here

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    Ahh youre a good man ... I was going to look for something like that ... thats a good clear schematic :thumb_ups:


    thanx Craig
     
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    Wire it all up and have the black from the relay connected through a multimeter (set to measure amp's)
    then put the other multimeter lead to the earth on the high beam connection on the LandCruiser light's and measure how many Amp's the Hid's draw.
    Unless it's in the instruction's/manual ?
     
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    If it is an earth return system then I think @my67xr diagram is a liitle incorrect (not critical, though), but his point of the high-beam return wire from the lights lights back to the function/fuse box being the region to splice into is solid. And the easiest point is most likely at the bulb.

    As for the weather alert, if it is receiving data, you need a data connection such as sim card for phone network, satellite connection or linking to your phone. I'm too cheap for all that, I just use the weatherzone app: it has been sending regular alerts and warnings for Queensland lately, been a bit unstable in the southeast. Hope that's helpful
     
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    Yea the negative switching thing buggers most people ... Ive just had to read up to find out which wire is the -ve at the inner high beam bulb

    https://offroad80s.com/spotlight-wiring-help-t5637.html

    Looks like its the red/yellow

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    As for the weather thing , yea theres plenty of apps ... but I want something that is purely via satellite .,.. I go camping where theres no phone coverage .... but yea it gets into the 'expensive' zone ..... I use the BOM radar at home all the time

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    A sat phone with data plan then a laptop or tablet for gps maps and weather info...
    https://www.satphonesales.com.au/Which-Satellite-Network-and-Plan
    you could have a look at some of the ultralight aircraft forums..those guys come up with some nifty ways to nav and stay safe on the cheap..... and weather is very important to them
     
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    Which diagram is a little incorrect ?
     
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    I am with Craig in that you only need to connect that 1 earth to the earth side of the high beam.
    Switching earth isnt the norm but it isnt difficult.. you just have to think it through a little.
    The way Craig has shown it is there is no complete power circuit from the battery to the relay until High beam is turned on... Simples... :)
     
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    Ok heres the next problem solving exercise Mr H2o :lolsign:

    How can I check the red/yellow is actually the earth side of the plug so I dont blow the crap out of everything if I connect into the + side incorrectly
    If I have the headlights on low beam will there be power going to the inner high beams + side wire but nothing showing on the -ve side of the plug (until u flick to high beam)

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    If you had my nifty little test lamp it would be easy.. it shows + or - with a red LED...
    What you say is possibly correct.. Easy way to tell is to take the high beam connector off the light and test which side lights up a test lamp when you earth the test lamp.. should be fairly straight forward. If you take a test lamp from the red/yellow with it off the light and the high beam turned on.. you should not light up the test lamp.. so long as you are testing between the connection and earth..
    Bloody white mans magic this electricity stuff... :)
     
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    Correct, to find the negative side of the high beam wire's, connect a test lamp to the positive on the battery then see which wire light's up the test light when you turn the high beam's on, that'll be the switched earth from the headlight switch.
    If you get the wrong wire nothing will happen as it's positive anyway

    If you have an LED test light put the alligator clip into the terminal at the high beam plug and the probe end of the test light to the positive on the battery
     
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    If the car is earth switching, the relay is on the negative side of the lights, they won't earth through the switchgear, it'll burn them out. The switchgear should only be activating the relay.

    Also, make sure you disconnect both bulbs, they have a habit of finding their own earth sometimes.
     
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    Those diagrams are showing the switching for the driving lights on the earth for the relay.
    So long as the power is direct from the battery to the relay and it is switched via the earth all is fine.


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    From an 80s Land Cruiser FB group ..... :lolsign:

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    The high beam trigger is negative isn't it ? Red w/yellow stripe ?
    Sorry i must have it all wrong, i'd be listening to them ^
    You might want to delete my post's above too if that's the case
     
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    This pic ?
    The relay is on the positive side, battery is on the far left big line, little line, big line, little line etc etc
    It show's the headlight's are switched through the negative wire.

    That pic below is just one off the net i borrowed.

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