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Help Spada bottom end

Discussion in 'Honda 250cc Twins' started by Gizziracer, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. Gizziracer

    Gizziracer Active Member Premium Member Contributing Member

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    Ahhhh Traps for the unwary. I was speaking to a Spada expert and he told me of a number of times where Spadas sounded as though they were close to imminent explosion. Owners were sure there was a failing bearing or faulty cam chain tensioner and it turns out to be the 3 bolts that secure the starter clutch sometimes wirk themselves loose . Sure enough, took of the clutch cover and there they were, 3 starter clutch bolts about to fall out. The motor sounds like it just rolled off the production line now. Perfect.
     
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    Might be a good idea to ask Mr @GreyImport to post those two tips into a separate sticky called "Spada Owners Read This" or something similar.
     
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    Hey mate, where exactly are the "starter clutch bolts" i have a super loud death rattle at idle and low rpm, sounds like the bottom end, but it disappears at top end, trying to isolate it.

    Was is the clutch basket? or starter motor?
     
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    If you remove the right side engine cover, (source a new gasket first, $10 from wemoto, $30 from Honda), then the clutch basket, the starter clutch is behind this, it will be instantly obvious if these are loose, make sure the 3 starter clutch bolts are tight and locktight back in place,
     
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    I cant believe it! these three bolts were loose, tighted up and good as gold. How strange not to have them locktite in the first place. Now onto my electrical issues :D
     
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    They were locktited in the first place, at the factory, by honda. Remember this is a 30 year old motorcycle of unknown history. All imports have an unknown service history in Japan before being delivered in Australia where numerous home mechanics have dabbled. Your bike may have a low kilometer speedo reading but its possibly no a true reflection of the distance its travelled. Of the numerous spadas I have rebuilt only one has needed this fix. Its sort of nice to be able to repair something that sounds so nasty for the cost of a gasket:)
     
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    I wonder if you can help with my other spada issues, this one is a shed find with all sorts of quirks. Tacho almost works in reverse and when I pull the clutch lever the temp needle flat lines then spikes on release. like a short somewhere, I'm going to start by cleaning all switch blocks.
     
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    Wow, I think you may have goblins living in your sumpremoving the wires on the clutch lever that control the neutral starter motor kill switch will solve one issue . Check wiring if someone has cut into the loom somewhere and modified something. Also remove instruments, remove back of console and look for wiring tampering and clean up all terminals with computer circuit board cleaner.
     
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    Also, there is an earth connection on the right hand side of the battery box to the chassis, check that this is clean and tight, then remove front of headlight and check/clean all connectors, pay special attention to the one that runs to the instrument console, seperate all connectors, clean and check none of the pins have retracted in the housing
     
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    The loom is all stock, nothing tampered visually that I can see, has been garaged for the past 7 years, so I suspect some corrosion somewhere, will start with the instrument cluster, how does the neutral position work again? It's only starts when in nuetral, kick down or up, and clutch lever in. Will not start any other way, from memory it should start with kick up, clutch in, any gear?
     

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