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Discussion Why 250's?

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by spaceman1972, May 7, 2014.

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  1. physicist

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    Another reason - it' a good size for a 61 year old, 5ft 3in 58 kg male rider!
     
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    Not in the ACT either! I know my KLR650 costs about 3/4 of the cost of the 1.3 L Starlet for 12 months and the CBF is cheaper again. The trailer is cheapest about $60 a year though! :p

    I never had a vehicle registered in VIC when I was living in Melbourne briefly. Probably just as well!
     
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  3. Murdo

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    Quote" riding an R1 at 100Km/h through the bends is boring, a 250 at 100Km/h is a hoot. You are pushing the edge and grinning a mile wide."
     
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    My 2C worth re. 250s. I was in the UK when I started riding and ‘L’ platers were limited to 250cc, as insurance companies made it impossible to insure anything larger if you were under 25 (I understand that has changed now). What this did was push the industry (and you) to come up with as many tricks as possible to extract as much power out of your new / used 250cc as you could. This was the driver behind many of the early (and later) 250cc factory hot-rods that came out of Japan and Italy (especially the 2-strokes). The 250cc engine size limitation contributed to some amazing bikes such as the initial T250s, RD250s, KH250s, X7s and RD/RZ250LCs and their successors before they were legislated out of existence. In Japan, where the 250cc class is still strong today, you still don’t need ‘Sha-ken’ (roadworthiness checks) on bikes under 250cc and RZs / RGs and all the 4-strokes (GB / SRV etc.) are still very affordable (check out Yahoo Auction Japan). 250s are light, fun, can go from mild to wild, make you grin from ear to ear and still leave you with beer money. Like most people, as much as I love bikes, I have too many other commitments vying for limited resources ($).

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    hey ian, similar deal here in australia restricting new riders to 250cc bikes, then they changed it to power to weight ratio a few years back, we all started out on one :thumb_ups:
     
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    Wouldn't sell my 250 to buy something like a r1
    250 way more fun
     
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    Most average rider can ride a smaller bike from A to B faster than they could on a big one, and pushing the smaller bike to near its limit is far more fun (and less chance of losing big amounts of money and points). With our road limits and crap roads, why do you need a bike that will do 300Km/h?
     
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    agree... basically "its more fun to ride a slow bike fast then to ride a fast bike slow"
     
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    Found this quote on 'vintage bike forum';
    "I asked my mate why he was riding a Honda cub (50cc) and he replied, 'I can ride it too the limit and crash more safely'."
    Sound true to me.
     
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    Well after Riding my zxr250 again today although it felt slow my god is it fun to chuck around the bends (quick speedo check points out I'm cornering faster then I normally would. Man I love and hate this bike haha
     
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    same reason I love em for.. Can get them low and still carry speed through corners..
     
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    Hi All,

    Probably not the right place for this post, but I didn't want to start another thread just for a few pics...

    Recent club ride in Melbourne going up into the mountains. Sun was out in Melbourne, but wet, cold and miserable in the mountains. Riding in the clouds at one stage.

    Anyway, in amongst all the big capacity bikes was a lone representative of the 2fiftycc brigade. I took the little VT250F for a spin and after much pointing and laughing from other club members I managed to get to the top in reasonable time and showed many what a small bike is capable of. Most of the bikes are CB750 (it is the CB750 owners club after all) so I was giving away power (35hp versus 68HP) but gaining on weight (149kg to 218kg). Obviously, there were a few bikes there that would keep up with most modern bikes (VF1000R for example). The next smallest bike was a beautiful VF500F and the rest were all 750cc plus.

    To summarise, the torquey little VT250F pulled strongly up the mountains and kept up with most of the others on the highway. The wet and tight roads up the mountain were almost made for it. Good fun, but couldn't wait to get home. Riding in the rain and cold is best way to see me get really pissed off! 2fiftycc rule.
     

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    Atta boy, show them what a 'little' bike can do.
     
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    Can I do that at the VJMC ride with the Fizzer?

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    if you can go over 200 you can.
     
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    I don't think I'd be game to try that on Nix or Scarlet.

    Nix' speedo only goes to 180 and I'm pretty sure Scarlet's is lower.
     
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    3ln speedos go to 180 but they go past that.grey might hit 200.
     
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    I took mine off the clock at qr so grey I'm sure u can
     
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