Hi Guys, <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s --> Great site been looking on the net and found nothing on the FZR250 untill now!! Just bought a 91' 3ln the needs a bit of work. My question is what lights go into the 3ln the Single headlight with the twin globes in side i think they are called "projector" headlights. I mean are they globes h4 etc as i thought they were h4 but they didn't go into the plugs lol. Also if anyone is wrecking or knows of someone wrecking a 3ln plz email me at <!-- e --><a href="mailto:tmgr_gip@austarnet.com.au">tmgr_gip@austarnet.com.au</a><!-- e -->. Is a FZR a good first bike?? cos i wanted to do it up and then register it. I am in QLD, Australia Thanks Heaps guys, Dominic
The fzr is a great first bike! It will grow with your needs as a rider, and even when you can upgrade there is really no reason to right away unless you want to have a pillion or long curises - the fzr has quite good power to grow with you. But do be careful on it - because it is a powerful bike for its size it is easy to get carried away on particularly as a beginner rider. It is a 'harsh' ride - meaning you have to find the right gear for the speed and road conditions. A gear too high and your bike will have virtually no torque to accelerate, and a gear too low and your bike will rev it's head off. But that also has a good quality to it - when you do finally move to another bike you will find it to be so much more forgiving! I always view the fzr as a bike that will make you ride perfectly in terms of picking gears etc, only so you can form good habits now and take them on to the 'easier' bikes to ride. It will also need quite regular maintenance to keep it in top form (some other 250's can get away with a lot less maintenance). But again this is only going to form good habits with any other bike you ever own, and it will also teach you a lot about bikes that you can apply to any other bike as well. This forum is a good place to get a grasp of what are the regular maintenance tasks. Off hand I would say that oil and chain are probably the two most frequent tasks, with spark plugs, air filter, coolant, brakes being 'secondary'. As for globes - I don't know what I replaced mine with (though I have a 2kr model/twin headlight model). I simply took one out when I went to the shop to get it replaced. Went in and said I need two of these, and he came back with the appropriate bulbs. So I can't help you with that... And don't let people on CBR 250's think they are better than you. Your bike will perform just as well as any of those, so you can feel good that you have essentially just purchased one of the highest performing 250 4 strokes on the market, our-performanced perhaps only by a handful fo modern 2 strokes. But again it depends on how you ride the bike and it is best to be within your abilities rather than outside... (had to put that safety message across - it would be negligent not to). Have fun! And if you have any questions please post as the people on here have had a lot of varied experiences with the fzr and someone is bound to be able to help.
Bike Hey dude, I find the FZR to be a nice bike. I havnt had the same problem as Boz with the power (get the gear wrong and u have no power). That maybe because of the extensive work that has been done on my engine. First of all dont touch the carbs if u dont know much about them cause FZR250 carbs are one of the most touchie carbs out there. They need to be set correct or u will have over fueling or now fuel and both of em mean no power. But over all its a good bike for a 250cc I mean u cant expect much power or handling out of a low budget 250cc can u now. By the things I have come across every one seems to get their own diffrent problems and then same are the same. All I can say is ride it and find out for your self. I dont know about the lights sorry (the only thing on the fzr I dont know about maaaahahaha ). Have fun, ride it and no matter what people say CBR250s suck!!!!
First of all, Congrats on an excellent post boz --- informative--- !!! I agree with what boz said about the power and gears, If you are in a gear too high no power i'm not saying you don't still take off you just don't use the bikes power to it's full capacity !! And when i say this i mean compared to bigger bikes not other 250's I feel they are all kinda the same VTR - CBR etc Probly due to the lack of torque in these smaller bikes <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s --> You have made an excellent choice in first bike mate >>> Now get on the road <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s -->
I simply meant that some other 250's don't have as tight a 'optimum' power band and will accelerate pretty much evenly throughout a wider rev range. But the fzr definitely has an optimum rev range between 10-14 000. This is quite often indicative of the sports oriented 250's. Some other 250's are more gentle, but then again don't have the same power... (I speak from VERY limited experience riding zzr, across, vtr, rz250r, and fzr - of those models I found the fzr the one as requiring most 'precision gear selection', but the others didn't have the same power... except for the rz - that was just a fun ride all round!)
gears Yeah I knew what u were saying boz but what I was saying is that I dont have that problem. Sorry if I upset u mate <!-- s:angel: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_angel.gif" alt=":angel:" title="Angel" /><!-- s:angel: --> . For one thing I beleve u should compare apples with apples, what I mean Embo is that u cant compare aye 250cc to a 400cc or larger just like u cant compare a V8 to a 1.3ltr. Lets compare a 250cc 4 cylinder 4 stroke early 90s bike with the same. FZR250r vs CBR250RR. Same engine set out only the Yamaha has the EXUP. U have to rev the **** out of both to get power, they both have NEAR the same weight and power ratio and both have NEAR the same look. I have raced a CBR250RR and taking into account riders and bike settings I BURNT HIS ARSS TO THE GROUND. The exup valve picks up low down power then the CBR only wished he had. Up top the FZR and CBR are much of the same breed. But up at this speed it comes down to which rider wants to hold the bike on redline doing top speed till the other slows down and goes back home for a hug from his mumma (normally Mr Honda). So in conlusion 250cc have to be riden hard and in the right gear to go any where but in sayying that so do others in its class. Thats just what I think Regards Jarmizz
Hey boz i agree with what you said with selecting the right gear. Its true but as boz said it willl make you a better rider.
rider Better rider on a 250cc yes but when u ride a larger bike say a r6 they pull from way down in the revs so gear choices arnt as critical as they are on a 250cc. But u will find this out when u ride a larger CC bike
I find larger bikes easier to ride personally (to an extent). They have a different style, but I find them easier because they do pull from such a wide rev range, and don't have to change gears simply because you slow down slightly in traffic (was riding a trx 850 last weekend and it is good fun). Turning is more difficult of course, but for me that is a small price to pay. I guess one should just say that all bikes ride differently, and each bike has its pros and cons. Out of curiosity - anyone ever try a yamaha zeal? It is the same engine as the fzr, except it lacks the addition of the exup. I was wondering if the fact that it was tuned not to use exup whether the the engine characteristics have changed at all. I have been told that the max speed is lower (165-170), but that is the only thing I have heard, and that was through a friend of a sister who one had a mate who used to ride sort of thing... Jarmizz - just so you know I never take offense to discussion / points of view. So there is never a need to apologise! <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s -->
good point Good point Boz!!!!!, I like the TRX theres is one in my town, I beleve it is a trx, they are Vtwin right???? Well they sound awesome!!!!!!!!!!. Ive never heard of one of em before Boz. Ill have to do a search and have alook. <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s -->
The trx is a parallel twin, and it does sound nice. It is my fiance's dad new toy. It only weighs something like 180 kg, so it is very light and agile too!
lol Real, man they are nice bikes.... so what u think it would be like to ride and perfomance wise compared to say a 748 Ducati or other bike of its class????
Having never ridden a ducati I couldn't really say. I doubt if it (the trx) has quite as much power, and I would be guessing the ducati may be much more unforgiving (i've read that you really have to work ducati's in the corners, whereas I found the trx is just a point and go sort of thing). The trx allows you to pull anywhere between 2-6000 revs quite comfortably. I don't know. Perhaps one day I will be able to give a proper comparison...
lol Yeah well lets all hope that one day we can ride a Ducati, myself well if I was going to get a V-Twin I would go for the Suzuki TL1000r. That body and sound of that 1000cc twin thumping away under you. And imagne the low down power gezzzz it would be enough to rip your saggy mens breast's off. TRX are sexy bikes but I think they lack some fairing......... kinda looks unfinished. What u think?
I am a fan of the half fairings personally. Give it that somewhat rugged look like a street fighter, but not foresaking the sports orientation of the bike... I have recently read a review of the tl1000R - apparently there was originally a lot of problem with head shake at higher speeds (and not just extreme speeds). This older review has a brief mention of it: <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/tl1000r.htm">http://www.mcnews.com.au/Testing/tl1000r.htm</a><!-- m -->. The recent article I read said that the addition of a steering damper cleared up all the head shake though. But does sound nice as you said, and it goes darn well! I am still targetting a nice sports tourer for my next bike though. Need something that the missus will hop on the back of for some nice rides.
