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clicking then jamming

Discussion in 'FZR250.com - Archives' started by Barney, Jul 16, 2006.

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  1. Barney

    Barney New Member

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    hey guys just got a fzr250rr 1990 a month ago just got new batt plugs oil air etc done compression slightly low but runs great, until tonight started makin a clickin sound it got louder and louder tried to find where it was comin from then what ever it was jammed and bike died <!-- s:( --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" title="Sad" /><!-- s:( --> tried to restart it and it trys to turn over but somthing is jamming it somewhere any help would be great
     
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    Does the engine turn over at all? If it doesnt it sounds like the cam chain might have given up. Also once on my FZR the little wheel that the EXUP cables connect to and turn the EXUP vavle, came away from the EXUP vavle. This caused the motor to stop, however it would turn over and splutter.

    Maybe some more info on what the engine does when you are turning it over etc would help.
     
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  3. Barney

    Barney New Member

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    when i go to turn it over it sounds like its trying to but just jamming so it cant turn over.
    it was making a weird clicking/brushing sound (ie. ch ch ch ch ch) before it jammed and died on me <!-- s:-? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_Eyecrazy.gif" alt=":-?" title="Eye Crazy" /><!-- s:-? -->
     
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    Kind of sounds like the cam chain has broken and maybe put some valves into the pistons...then again I could be way off the mark. Hmmm It sounds like something is stopping the pistons from moving..

    Any chance of you taking the cam cover off to check weither the cam chain is broken or not?
     
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    doubt that it's the timing chain
    have you tried with the clutch in? also you could take the side cover off and try to manually crank it in the opposite way just to see wether it moves

    chances are you could have introduced something small while doing the oil plug and air filter change.

    might be part of a broken plug caught in the valve
     
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    So true, first thing that jumped to my mind was the cam chain...but chances are your right.
     
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    yea no luck with the clutch in either aye it just goes click as it trys to turn over mite have to take it into the shop and part with sum cash <!-- s:-? --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_Eyecrazy.gif" alt=":-?" title="Eye Crazy" /><!-- s:-? -->
     
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    try this, put it in 6th gear and push it back and forth with the clutch out.
    let me know what happens
     
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    Also...and I know this sounds obvious but, A flat battery will make the starter go click and thats the only sound you'll hear.
     
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    good thinkin i tried and it doesnt push forward much but after pushing it backwards it loosens whatever is jamming it and it turns ova for a little until it jamms up again
     
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    IF you can get the cam cover off, start there and look at the cam chain. Look for designation dots on the right end (brake side) of the cam shaft and dots on the came chain as well. These should all line up with the #1 cylinder at TDC.
     
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    pulled fairing off to see if i could get at the cam cover it would be a lot of work to get at it properly aye and prob a bit out of my depth at this stage
     
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    take the plugs out and inspect them, should also make it easier to to crank/push the bike, have a mate help you and see whether you can hear noise coming from inside the cylinders.
     
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    the plugs are new so should be fine just had full service.
    im worried that by trying to crank it or turn it over that ill be doin more damage than good, whatever is jamming it is jammin it real good it wont push forward at all in gear, What do you reckon?
     
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    i was thinking that the way you described what happened that maybe one of the plugs broke or that something small got sucked in when you changed the air fillter and has done some damage to the cylinders or valves.

    stranger things have happened......
     
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    yea it sounds very possible that it is somthing like that i'll try to have a better look at it when it stops raining altough it needs a valve grind (compression under 100psi) so mite be just as easy for machanics to have a look when they messing with the head
     
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    Possibly the wrong plugs were installed and have hit the pistions. (worst-case scenerio)
     
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  18. Barney

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    i took it out side and rolled it backwards in 6th gear for a few metres and it started up afterwards and is running now i must have disslodged whateva was jamming it, but it makin rattly sounds (sort of tappy)
    does that sound like theres somthing in the head?
     
    Barney, Jul 21, 2006
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    My bike was rattling for several weeks from the cam chain area but it usually stopped once warmed up, it did fix itself after a few weeks though.
     
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    Barney New Member

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    im hopein my bike fixes itself to hehe <!-- s:D --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_biggrin.gif" alt=":D" title="Very Happy" /><!-- s:D --> but knowin my luck if i leave it it'll jamm up at 100kmph and ill be cleanin the stain outa my jocks for weeks <!-- s:alcoholic: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_all_coholic.gif" alt=":alcoholic:" title="Alcoholic" /><!-- s:alcoholic: -->
     
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