Had to post this - it is a letter from a guy over at netrider and made me laugh: (original plus comments at http://www.netrider.org.au/forums/viewtopic.php?p=44358 A laughable 2-day course, 3 months on L’s and there’s a new batch of “instant expertsâ€
That guy sounds like a bit of a dick to me. Although I see the point he is trying to make lol. The skills of riding doesnt stop after you get your full license anyway. Where he gets the whole 'instant expert' thing puzzles me. I dont know anyone (P's or full license) that claim they are experts. I reckon his just jelous of coz he has prob been beaten around the reefton by some L plater on a cbr 250rr haha.
i do agree with him when he says he respects people that choose to remain on their 250 after they get their open licence tho... i think its something that i might be considering... i can see me getting a bigger bike in the future but after a year and a half of riding, i dont see myself being able to 'outride' my fzr... simon
He actually is a nice guy from the times I met him <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s -->. I think he just got a bit annoyed with some 3 month riders just getting off their l's saying things like "brandX tires are so much better because they are so much stickier". As you said no p's or new riders will admit to knowing everything, but some new riders have posted things that implies that they do know everything. As for sticking to a 250 - I had mine for nearly 2 years due to budget constraints and was never dissapointed by the fzr's performance capabilities. In that time I wanted to upgrade for reasons other than pure power/speed (namely pillion travelling comfort and sound), but I was not able to outride my fzr (far from it) and I am even further away from being able to outride my yzf.
much more than I hoped for! It is an excellent bike and I am so glad that I bought it. I can still scare myself when I decide to remind myself how much power it actually has. I have also been able to wear down the chicken strips left by the previous owner to some degree, which pleases me. <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_lol.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing" /><!-- s:lol: --> I really want to try out a track-day sometime so I can actually try and push my limits in a controlled environment and without fear of oncoming traffic. I've put on about 10 000 k's since I bought it 6 months ago, and it hasn't given me any troubles at all either (except for an old battery that wasn't keeping its charge). My wife is also comfortable on it for day rides which is a plus.
Yeah saying that you can outride any bike is pretty much bullshit. It anything..When you think of it..its prob harder to outride a fzr than it is a 600 or 1000cc. Because around corners..its lighter so therefore it has better handling..which means u can push it harder. (just a thought) The only reason id go to a bigger bike (as long as i have enough money) is for the pure acceleration increase. Not because I will have 'outridden' my fzr..but because they do lack in acceleration compared to bigger bikes.
I have no plans on upgrading from a 250 as im completely happy with the size, performance, styling and i like the cheap registration costs etc. I have seen a few biiger bike riders nearly come to grief trying to keep up with a well ridden 250 on a set twistys. But on the other hand i have seen some 250 riders that are 6 foot plus who really need to look at a bigger bike, there is a guy near me who would be at least 6ft 4 on a cbr 250 and he just looks wrong.
i kinda agree with some of the stuff the dude says, most of it sounds like pet hates but he would have been a learner at some point to so its a bit rich to bag those that areb starting out. as far as learners trying to act like know it alls i think its more a case of them jus trying to fit in with more exp riders.im guilty of that sometimes. i wear runners while riding, more comfortable and i know/accept the risk involved, im not hurting anyone else. hey fzr chic, im 6' too and i know what you mean when iot looks wrong being on a small bike, feel like puttin training wheels and ribbons on the handlebars coz thats how goofy i feel sometimes. not quitw the hardcore biker image eh
I'll full heartedly agree with that; i'm looking forward to my upgrade to:- 1) I constantly think i look stupid on a 250... i'm 6"3' or so and can't see the lights on my FZR as im WAAAY too tall & forward. 2) A little more power would be nice sometimes... but for twisties the 250 is fine. (After the lowside, theres ALOT more learning to do) 3) A more comfortable seat would be awesome... my ass is dead after 4 hours of riding; even when it is hanging off the seat at Reefton. edit: a nice bottle of red down and i can't even count... 1,2,2... i know something comes after 2.
yeah i reckon 250's are fine for most situations on the road, but like the other taller riders (i'm 6ft) i feel a bit cramped on the fzr and things get pretty uncomfortable after more than an hour in the seat - i remember going down down to phillip island last year and was just about crippled by the time i got there (2 hour ride). The other reason (already mentioned) to upgrade would be to have power a bit more readily available (ie at lower revs) so you don't have to scream the engine to really accelerate - than can be fun in itself though! Hey Boz, what YZF do you have (600, 750 or 1000)? I reckon they look like a pretty good second hand buy - especially when i see good conditioned ones for around $7500.
Big bikes and even bigger idiots Pete had some good points. There are far too many 'instant experts' on the roads today who don't have a bloody clue. Sadly it is these riders who often represent the latest motorcycle fatalities. Being a 'good' rider does not entail racing from one traffic light to the next and clearing all six gears. The people who think that is good riding need to go and join the boy racers who drive crap hatchbacks with drain pipe exhausts. I admire the riders that respect the limits of their machine and their riding ability. These individuals realise that modern motorcycles are awesomely powerful machines which need to be treated with repspect and responsibility, whether it be a 250 or a 1000. Cheers
I have a '96 yzf750r - great bike! The looks of the 750's are a little less modern than the 600 or the 1000's, but I really enjoy it. 96 and 97 models came well specced out (e.g. ohlins shocks among other things), and the 750 is a bike that is still very successful in amateur racing today because it is so easy to modify (I haven't done a thing to mine though). A few guys at netrider have the 600's and love them - as they keep saying 'if they haven't changed the bike in the past 10 years something must be good with them'. I picked up my 750 for $5750 with just under 30 000 on the clock. The guys at netrider picked their 600's up (both mid-late 90's) for around the same. I have also seen some 1000's selling for around 7500. Great value bikes! They will keep up with virtually anything currently available, and are relatively comfortable for pillions.
