Hey I'm wondering what other Suzuki Across rides put in their fuel tanks. The manual recommends an octane of "91 or higher (research method)", but with a compression ratio of 12.5:1 I'm thinking the higher the better. I'm kinda fond of the BP high octane and use that in my car, it's pretty good in the Across also. But then there's the Caltex Vortex 98, which gives the bike a noticeable 'lift'. but I find the engine sounds a bit 'chattery' with the Vortex. I hate Shell fuel. I used Optimax in my car for ages but it seemed to get addicted to it - got better economy with the BP high octane so I've stuck with that, but that's the car. Anyone got an answer based on more experience than I? Brad
When I had my CBR250RR, I was warned against using Shell Optimax, so I tend to use BP 95 ron in my bikes Chris
Yeah Shell Optimax is nasty, and the newer version is worse. The car felt good on it, but like I said, economy was sh*thouse.
Hey Brad Which fuel is best, I wouldn't know. As a practise I always use 95 in my bikes. One area that I have found beneficial is a fuel additive that I put in my CBR 1100 every fourth or fifth tank full. My mechanic recommended it and I have not been disappointed with the results. Sadly I can't remember the name of the product, will get back to you with the product name soon. Cheers Phil
Decided my answer on this. Castrol Vortex gives me 207km before the reserve light comes on. BP High Octane 95 gives me 190km. I know this could all depend on the conditions etc, but the Vortex 98 does seem to go further, and further regularly.
it should make no difference what fuel you stick in to across above 90-91 ron the across has no knock sensor and not efi, just CDI, two totally different beasts all together. run the cheapest 90-91 fuel you can lay your hands on and be done with it. disassemble the carbs and give them a good clean or throw a cup full of kero in the tank if your feeling lazy and give the carbs a clean, rip the tops off the craps and set the jet one position leaner then stock and get about 5.5 litres of fuel or so to the 100 kays. still over 40Mpg and be done with it.the gsx250f is a heavy bike for a 250 so you wont get much better then that.
I've seen a fair bit of discussion on this on other boards (netrider I think) and the consensus there is not to use anything other than 91, for one thing 95/98 makes it hard to start oddly enough. My experience matches this exactly, I use Vortex 98 in the M3 so I started using it in the Across until I read the other discussion and switched to 91 for a trial. Cold start was much better, I don't really care if I get 40 as opposed to 45 MPG so I'm sticking with 91. Cheers JM
personally, as fuel in nsw is crap i run premium 98 in my bikes and LAWNMOWERS. less fuel issues and e10 if left in tank leaves jelly in the carbies.makes sense as alcohol absorbs moisture.recent trip to victoria their 91 had different smell and colour to here.
Know what you mean, I normally run the 91 in the 4wd and a 98 once a month. I tried the 95 but found it made no difference to fuel usage. ... And there is no place for e10 ever
The subject of fuel is always contentious....just like "what oil to use" or "what beer is better" Here is my take on it..... The correct fuel/RON/octane for an engine is based on its compression ratio. Not that its "premium" , "v-power" or "ultimate" or some such commercial branding to suck u in to thinking "Wow its premium fuel ,it must be the best !" As far as quality goes then yes it can vary and its always good to find a local service station that is consistent with a high turnover (fresh fuel!)......I run an 84 L300 4wd van , a 98 Honda Accord V6 and the FZR on BP 91 and have no complaints. The FZR hasnt run enough long distance to give a good observation yet . The 77 Triumph has also not seen many Ks to properly judge but it is run on BP 98 (which was highly recommended by some very astute Triumph owners/mechanics) Have a read of the owners manual and see whats stated there .... it may even say 91 minimum or some such thing. Start with a tank of 91 then 95 then 98 and see the difference ,if any. And yes , the definate world wide opinion is that E10 or equivalent is JUNK. Put octane or RON + compression ratio +motorbike into google. http://www.bikesales.com.au/news/2009/tech-feature-fuels-aint-fuels-15524 http://www.roadrunner.travel/magazine/read/january-february-2006/page/82/ http://roadrider.com.au/gear-reviews/the-fuel-truth Risky.....u need to start buying Opal and stop this petrol sniffing ...... using "premium" in everything,especially lawnmowers , is just crazy and a waste of money...... and why is the premium going to be any less "crap" than the other choices? End or rant
Great points you make. I've never been a fan of Shell fuels. I always try to use BP or Mobil (now 7/11) in my cars. One of the biggest things I took out of the articles, was the age of the fuel. So the busier the servo, the fresher the fuel. "The actual effectiveness of current grade of fuels available can vary depending on how “fresh” they are. Standard unleaded can range from 91-93 octane, 95 premium can vary from 95-96 octane and the 98 premium can vary from 98-100 octane. " (http://roadrider.com.au/gear-reviews/the-fuel-truth) "Interestingly, though, the fact that bikes run at high RPM and have small cylinders with short flame paths, reduces the octane requirement. This said, BP’s Dale Brown-Kenyon supplied information showing that premium unleaded fuels have a lower corresponding air/fuel ratio. This means you can put more fuel in for the same engine capacity, giving a cooler running engine and producing more power.!" (http://roadrider.com.au/gear-reviews/the-fuel-truth) So guess I'll be staying on the BP 95 and gauge the km's for the next two tanks and then try a 98 and go from there. Cheers.
why lawnmowers...easy e10 stuffs the carby with jelly due to periods of long lack of use. e10 absorbs water and on mowers use of premium reduces time of dropping carby bowl and cleaning bowl and jets.experience.
forgot to ad that e10 rots the inside of rubber fuel lines and corrodes aluminium.if used needs nitrile fuel lines.
Have been using 95ron in my bikes as this seems to run best with reasonable economy. My ST1100 for example will 'ping' sometimes on a very hot day on 91ron if I let the revs get too low pulling out of a corner. On 98ron I find no advantage over the 95ron (only cost). But I can get over 520Km on a tank of 95ron, compared to 460Km on 91ron. For me it is about the same cost per Km, but the bike runs better. My FT500 single cylinder will cough and fart on 91ron, but runs happy on 95 or 98ron. My Maico 250 enduro will 'ping' it's head off on anything less than 98ron. My Yamaha 100 will happily run forever on 91ron. Try it all and see what your bike likes and stick with that.
The averages between mobil 95 and BP 95 are pretty close. A few kms in it. BP average was 188kms to the tank, Mobil 95, 184 kms to the tank. I ran one tank on BP 98, 191 kms to the tank. Will be on the 95, but much of a muchness to the brand!