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Help GSXR250 GJ72A - Power problem

Discussion in 'Suzuki 250cc In-line 4's' started by Luejay Orboc, Nov 20, 2024.

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    Luejay Orboc Ljay Premium Member

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    So what I am experiencing about lacks of power is probably caused by that?
     
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    Very likely. It is a huge air leak, and sucking unfiltered air. It will make that cylinder incredibly lean as far as the fuel mixture is concerned.

    I bet if you look at the spark plug, it will be white and clean with zero carbon. Should be a nice tan colour.

    Give me a few minutes and I will get you the links for replacement parts (if available)
     
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    13110-05C01 x2 - Left hand, Middle right
    13120-05C01 x2 - Middle left, Right hand

    However those part numbers are discontinued

    Replacement part numbers, you need two of each

    13101-05C01-000 PIPE,INTAKE 1-3, Suzuki
    13102-05C01-000 PIPE,INTAKE 2-4, Suzuki

    Clamps - dependant on type? Check against your frame number

    09402-38303 x4 Type H/J
    09402-38306 x4 Tyke K

    Available on Megazip and Impex, but cheaper on Megazip.

    https://www.megazip.net/zapchasti-dlya/suzuki/pipe-intake-2-4-1310205C01000

    https://www.megazip.net/zapchasti-dlya/suzuki/pipe-intake-1-3-1310105C01000

    Type H/J: https://www.megazip.net/zapchasti-dlya/suzuki/clamp-0940238303000

    Type K: https://www.megazip.net/zapchasti-dlya/suzuki/clamp-0940238303000


    May be worth asking your local Suzuki dealer and see if they can get all the bits you need.
     
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    Very much thank you mate!

    Though I still have other problem of the bike to ask soon.
     
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    I think that my carb is having a hard time to vacuum a fuel.
     
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    So my bike, as of the time this thread was made, is running but the carburetor is not sync. So I watched on YouTube on how to manual tune parallel twin carbs and applied it. Then, I install it back and now the bike won't start. Already did adjusting the idle screw and mixture but nothing helps.

    Any idea?
     
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    It is pointless to make adjustments with a badly split inlet manifold rubber like that. It will never run correctly.
     
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    I understand. But the bike is in need. I applied gasket maker anyway as a temporary fix till I found a replacement for the intake.

    Just the bike itself. Seems that it is better to not than to sync it cause it did run when it was not synced.

    Confused of what took it to that situation.
     
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    Now, I noticed that if I slight aggressively run the bike (e.g taking high rpms before changing to 2nd gear), then I will attempt to stop, it dies instead then starting it again seems to be the battery has been already drained. Then I need to bump start it.

    Also noticed that the bike gets hotter every time this situation happens.
     
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    Hello, Does anyone know what are these jettings for? upload_2025-4-6_22-26-20.jpeg
     
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    Those are air metering jets. They are used to control air flow for the pilot jet and diaphragm side of the carburettor mainly. If they are blocked it will cause poor/rich running.

    How did you go with the inlet manifolds?
     
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    I see. Mine's don't have tho. It's kinda weird and suspicious. I don't know what the previous owner did on the bike but yeah. Does it has to do with the bike sometimes start and sometimes don't? And is it different with the pilot jet cause it's physically look the same from the outside.

    For the inlet manifolds, I just bought a used but in good condition ones cause I don't have that money to buy new ones.
     
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    Does your carb look like it has threads for air jets? On some models and in some markets, they are a fixed cast orifice and not changeable, on others they are brass but are pressed in and not easily removable. A photo would be a big help here.
     
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    This is what mine's look like.

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    Those are pressed in and not removable.

    So all you can do is use a solvent or cleaning product through and blow through the passageway with compressed air to make sure it is clear - best to do with the carbs disassembled.
     
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    Guess, I don't have to worry now, especially knowing that mine's don't need jets.

    I just cleaned it yesterday btw and yes it was disassembled when cleaned. Hopefully did it right haha. One thing is still a problem, my bike's randomly starts and randomly not. But it has the boggling (I guess) sounds that are sign of trying or almost to start. Sometimes covering the carburator's inlet helps tho. It is really tuff to understand a bike without a full knowledge of being mechanic.
     
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    Those carbs are half of your problem. They are VERY hard to get right. This tutorial (walk thru) should help...

    https://teamghettoracing.com/mechanical/carb-efi-work/suzuki-across-gsx250f-carb-overhaul/

    And, here's another thing to look out for...

    https://2fiftycc.com/index.php?threads/gsx250f-asleep-for-13-years.10680/page-2#post-136283
    https://2fiftycc.com/index.php?threads/across-running-on-three-cylinders.11917/#post-148960
     
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