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healight bulbs for FZR 250

Discussion in 'Yamaha 250cc In-Line 4's' started by royorbisan, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. royorbisan

    royorbisan New Member

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    Does anyone know where to buy in sydney brighter headlights for the 3LN-1 fzr
     
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    Yea,, i woudl like to know aswell.. my lights are cRapaa
     
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    koma New Member

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    Be careful about sticking stronger bulbs in a 2KR or 3LN1 as if you drain too much power then the battery won't be able to charge.
     
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    Would using a more powerful battery help?
     
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    Wouldnt it be a more powerful alternator type thing... because if you have a more powerful battery then it doesnt mean it will charge better
     
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    yea yea.. good thinking:p
    bat and alt.? = works???
     
  7. dave

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    I am running twin 55w in my bike and they are not very bright. I think there is too much voltage drop in the wiring when using the higher wattage globes and therefore little gain over the original 35w units.
     
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    remember that a more powerfull alternator will remove power from the engine.
     
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    What my mate ended up doing with his 2KR was to run 2 55/60w globes and disconnect the low beam element from one of them. That way whilst cruising around town he's got a 55w globe showing him the way, and when he really needs the vision he can not charge his battery and throw 2x60w worth of light onto the road.
     
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    <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.exupbrotherhood1.com/brotherhood/Parts_and_Informational/Headlight_Relay_Instr_FJ.pdf">http://www.exupbrotherhood1.com/brother ... str_FJ.pdf</a><!-- m -->

    A very simple fix. Give it a try and let me know your results. At least try it before replacing the current bulbs.
     
  11. dave

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    I mentioned a similar thing in a prevoius post

    http://www.fzr250.com/viewtopic.php?t=1256&highlight=headlight+relay

    The problem will be the extra drain from the charging circuit, as the lights will draw MORE current from the battery with this setup, however that may not be an issue depending on whether its idling round town at lights, etc or on a longer run.

    How do you upgrade an alternator on a FZR?? Whats involved ???
     
  12. FZR Dude

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    The wiring doesn't take any more power from the system. It just allows all of the needed power to get to where it needs to be. You're still only pulling 35w for the bulbs.

    Now if you do the relay install AND go with higher wattage bulbs then yes, you'll be taping into more power that needs to go elsewhere.
     
  13. dave

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    In a sense you are correct but rewiring does reduce the resistance of the headlight circuit and allows more current to flow from the battery to the lights thus making them brighter. The actual wattage consumed at the lights does increase, but with 35w lamps the extra current would not be an issue. The actual brightness gain with the 35w lamps will not be as significant as when using the 55w lamps.

    Even with 55w lamps and the heavier wiring the only problem is of people possibly running their batteries flat when continuously riding thru heavy town traffic (lots if idling and fan running). There seems to be enough posts from time to time to prove that.

    If I was doing a lot of riding at night I would think it would be worth the effort of installing the relay, heavy wiring and the 55w lights.

    I notice that a lot of new cars are running high voltage discharge lamps (I think they are the mercury vapour or similar) and are around the 35w mark, but have a much higher light output than a 55w halogen. They have an electronic circuit that generates the high voltage required to make them work and as they take a longer time to turn on and achieve full brightness they only have one lamp and use a mechanical shield to switch from hi/lo beam.

    Something along these lines would be an excellent conversion for bikes BUT there may be a problem with compliancing as they are not an original part.
     
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    I have heard of people converting to HID lights. I lifted the following off OCAU.mc.
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    Only down side to them is the price, they are still very expensive.
     
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    There's alot more downsides to HID than that!

    1. HID has no high or low beam... just a single elementless bulb.

    2. HID needs to be installed in a factory HID projector setup to be anywhere NEAR legal by ADR standards.

    3. Improperly installed HID is one of the most annoying things on the road today. All these damn ricer boys install HID-wannabe-kits into their civics which then blinds everyone due to its complete lack of alignment. ADR also requires that HID systems have an autolevelling device to recalibrate the lights should the loading of the vehicle change.

    I'll be very happy if coppers start handing out the major-defect notices like they should! That aside, if properly setup and installed in the correct housing and light distribution system HID's are an excellent source of lighting.

    /end rant.
    Yes this topic hit a nerve. I've almost run off the road whilst riding at night due to a retard with an HID kit coming head on at me on the Yarra Boulevard over the centreline. Not being able to SEE means correcting for the oncoming car resulted in me coming extroadinarily close to clipping the curb.
     
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    Woah, easy tiger.

    I wasn’t implying people go out and bodgy it up to cut costs. Hence the need to spend big money to get a proper setup. I.e. The price being the big down side.
     
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    Hehe, yeah i know... as i said... it hit a nerve. <!-- s:rofl: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/icon_razz.gif" alt=":rofl:" title="Rofl" /><!-- s:rofl: -->

    To be honest, if a HID kit came with the full projectors and auto-levelling hardware then to retrofit it into a bike would not be very hard; except for the fact that the autolevelling kit would shite itself every time you accelerated hard, or popped a mono (or endo).
     
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    I bought some 55w/65ww H4 globes for my 3ln today that i have already started to modify to fit the bike... I will be removing the low beam wire on one of the light connectors to eliminate draining the battery and then just use high beams when its needed.

    I can forsee this partially working, lol, the hardest part will be actually trying to modify the collar on the globe to fit into the existing globe mounts. But nothing that a bench grinder wont be able to sort out, lol!

    Ill post some pics soon if i can actually get it too work ;)
     
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    HI TO ALL!!! I HAVE JUST FINISH THE PROBITIONARY TIME FOR MY 2KR HEAD LIGHTS AND PARK LIGHTS...TILL NOW FROM THREE WEEKS AGO I CHANGE MY PARK LIGHTS THE BRIGHT BLUE ZENON LIGHTS AND FOR MY HEADS WERE CHANGE TO 80W-100W HALOGEN FILLED ONES...UPTO DATE ITS STILL NOT CAUSING ME STARTING PROBLEMS OR DISCHARGING OF BATTS...AND AGAIN I HAD INSTALLED 2 6'' NEONLIGHTS UNDER MY RIDE...STILL GOOD!!!!!AM ENJOYING THE ATTENTION IT DRAWS WHEN I RIDE!!!!BE BRAVE AND RIDE HIGH <!-- s:Biker1: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/th_Biker_1.gif" alt=":Biker1:" title="biker_1" /><!-- s:Biker1: -->
     
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    You have me interested - better post up a picture.
     

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