Hi guys, I am narrowing down the source of my neck pain and am looking for a lighter helmet. I have a Shark speed R atm but think that might be a contributing factor. Any recommendations? or ideas?
Find one that fits and is carbon fibre. They're a bit pricier but my dad got a shark one (can't remember the model) recently from overseas (direct from Italy I think) for about $400 posted.
Had a lot of helmets and my hjc is super light also check out kabuto they have super light ones aswell
The information about each helmet on this site includes the weight. http://www.crash.org.au/ratings.php
http://hjchelmets.com/hjca/fg17_force i'm using this one and its a lot lighter than my old agv v force. its also come down in price from when i bought it. if the budget allows, go with a full carbon.
I thought I would resurrect an OLD thread, maybe with some newer input... I tried on a few different helmets today while pondering on a Triumph Tiger 660.. While the Shoei and Top of the line Arai were nice they are also out of my price range... I know... helmets shouldnt be about $$ I found the HJC were a good fit... nice and tight on the cheeck guards but not too tight on the forehead but... I am not sure how quiet they are... I also tried a couple of Nolans... great fit, great features and reasonable pricing... Anyone in here have the N-87 Nolan and can comment on it??? Is anyone else in the market for a Brain Bucket??? Maybe toss your thoughts etc in here. https://www.peterstevens.com.au/nol...Iys4IdbH2oiRXm-dY-kAQPRlK8RcANWgaAspyEALw_wcB
Ive had 2 HJCs .... Ive really not used any others to compare but they have been great as far as Im concerned .... good fit and "quiet" .... no wind noise that I ever notice and I never wear ear plugs And I always just buy a few tinted visors for them off ebay
I used to wear a Nolan (cannot remember which model) and found it quite good, but have since gone to HJC and found they fit me better. They are not the quietest (particulary the flip front one) but are value for the price and it was a HJC that saved my nogin last year. The replacement after the accident has a clip up chin strap that I didn't like at first but am getting used to it.
Well, after searching many online stores I couldnt find an HJC that I really liked so I bit the bullet and have just ordered the Nolan N87 pictured below... The red accents etc should help it stand out a little better than my Matt Black carbon Bell Bullitt. Might have to sell that one or the crappy RJays Open face, not that I will get much for that one...lol The Nolan comes with Pin-lock fitted as well as the flip down internal visor. The main visor seals really well and there appears to be plenty of ventilation.. The test will be to take it for a spin when it arrives.. hopefully sometime next week.
I went to get a new lid recently and there are plenty of helmets now with that feature and they also seem to be using overseas standards instead of the AS we used to need in Oz. I tried to find out if both of these 'features' mean these helmets can be used for motorsport events in Oz, but no-one seemed too keen to say yes! Anyone know what the go is? BTW, congrats on your new Nolan Andy; it looks lovely.
Cheers Frank... watched a few youtube vids last night on the HJC and Nolan and while they were all mostly US or UK based... they mentioned a gold sticker on the Nolans that meant they could be used for Motorsport such as trackdays etc but you would probably need to check with the Distributors. The Nolan has the microclip.. I found it easy enough to engage when I tried one on yesterday.. I still think it will be a gloves off exercise but so is the double D ring so no problem there. What I liked about both HJC and Nolan were the chin guard (helps with noise reduction) and the fit... both were nice and snug without being too tight. They were not the lightest around but not overly heavy either.
My 2 cents on helmets. I have been unfortunate enough to crash test a couple. I generally focus on a bit of research up front to try and find a helmet that has a reasonable safety rating. I can not afford the absolute best and do not get suckered it the premium price for the motogp livery ones. I like a composite shell (fibre glass, kevlar or carbon fibre composite). I also like something that is reasonably light. There is some good Australian specific helmet rating info here. https://www.motocap.com.au/helmets My older (NLA) helmet, KBC I have had for years and although relatively low cost (purchased in a hurry in Benala one day when I forgot mine at an event at Winton) has been a good helmet. Good fit, very quiet, GRP construction. Aust Stds compliant. I purchased an Airoh a few years back (ST501) for about $500. It is carbon composite, has internal visor, pinlock anti fog lens, etc. Not super comfortable, noisy as heck, but worked well in protecting my head from a track impact. Helmet now unusable (after just 1 use). Recently I purchased an AGV X3000. Primarily because wanted a classic rating period look helmet. This is not a race helmet though. It was on special for about $250. Composite (fibreglass) construction and reasonable lightweight. Vision is absolutely great (not as much head turning and good forward vision with your head tucked onto the tank). Noise level is considerably better than my Airoh but not as good as my old KBC. Comfort level is also good. This one has also picked up a scratch or 2 from the asphalt, but appears to still be usable. Biggest issue with this helmet is that it fogs up easily. But I believe you can get a pinlock visor assembly. My favourite helmet so far. As for standards compliance. The old AS1698 was the defacto standard for all helmets for road use in Australia. I believe that the Australian Standards Assoc have fallen behind with helmet technology advances and newer road helmets are considered acceptable if the comply with the ECE 22.05. The approval mark is simply a circle containing the letter E. Most helmets these days have ECE compliance. Snell compliance is identified by an appropriate certification label (details here: https://smf.org/cert) and covers helmets with a more track specific focus. A lot of manufacturers do not bother with the cost of Snell compliance. Some racing categories specifically look for Snell compliance. So if your purpose is primarily racing, then get a helmet with Snell compliance to avoid the embarrassment of being told to go home. Arguably, a helmet with Snell compliance should be safer for high speed applications, although the modern ECE testing regime is supposed to be pretty good. Additionally, DOT and SNELL helmets are not currently legal for Road use in Australia. (Side note - ECE helmets are not legal for road use in the USA, DOT helmets are not legal for road use in the UK.) All helmets must be marked as to what standard they comply to. For me I start with looking at the general safety features and make sure the helmet is a really good fit. They are not all the same. I also like good vision. Noise is a secondary factor for me as are extra features like drop down visors and pinlocks. Since I am less concerned about racing, I just look for ECE compliance. Peter.
Nice write up Peter. The other 'thing' I noticed when I was looking at lids, was the absence of a manufacture date on some of them. I even asked the sales lad to show me where it was...alas, he was also unable to find it. These helmets were for road use, so I asked said sales lad what should I tell the cops if they pull me over and ask how old my helmet is? Is the 'age' rule still in play or am I behind on road rules?
Each state will probably be a little different but this is what I found from NSW.... There are NO Date rules currently in Australia. https://roadsafety.transport.nsw.gov.au/stayingsafe/motorcyclists/motorcyclehelmets.html Edit.... VIC Roads info https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/saf...cyclist-safety/protective-clothing-for-riders Edit 2..... Link to mcas store article on the subject https://www.mcas.com.au/article/hel...DZmnb8ES8HxoECZXCZWp3R4TsL_SvIpBoCwJMQAvD_BwE Final edit... maybe ONly info I could find re Track days was for Sydney Motorsport Park and Helmets there say must meet current ADR requirements... they also specify full leathers, overlapping leather boots and gloves etc...
Yes. My general understanding is that there are no age restrictions for road use, but DOT and Snell certification alone is not acceptable. Strange about Snell since it is supposed to be a higher level of compliance testing. However I have read that there is some debate on this issue. As for track use, general track days seem to accept ECE and AS compliance. Good to see Andra also look like they accept road compliant helmets. I believe at the higher levels of motorsport general road compliant helmets may be an issue.
In the past I've bought my gear from..... https://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.s...Nolan-N87-Classic-N-Com-Full-Face-Helmet-0022 That is still quite a heavy helmet judging from their specs but I guess aerodynamics play a bit part as does the type of bike you are riding (and how fast lol)