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LiteTek Honda MC22 et al 4-Pot Brake Caliper Brackets

Discussion in 'LiteTek Carburettor Kits and Products' started by maelstrom, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. maelstrom

    maelstrom LiteTek Staff Member Premium Member 250cc Vendor Contributing Member

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    Secret for Forum Members Only: Hurry up MC22 owners before there are no 2nd hand calipers left.
    So here's the thing, you want to bin the scooter brakes on your Honda but you're not sure which way to go. Now if you think the scooter brakes on your MC22 are great then I am very happy for you. Please open your own thread about it, this one is for owners who think otherwise.

    Problems:
    The big issue is how the caliper is mounted to the fork leg. If the caliper mounting holes are threaded then you need a complex, heavy and more expensive bracket for this. Whereas, if the caliper has unthreaded mounting holes then you just need a threaded flat, or almost flat, bracket. Lighter, simpler and better looking.

    Here are your options (pitch means the distance between hole centres)

    • Nissin Unthreaded (62mm Pitch):
      • Best choice. Get some calipers from an NSR250 MC18 to MC22 (not MC28), or VFR400. The RC30 calipers might also fit but I have not been able to verify this. You need to source your calipers quickly though because our brackets fit a wide array of models (using the OEM caliper mounting bracket as a guide, these adapters should also fit the following CB400, CBR1000, NT650, CB400F2, CB750F2, VTR250, VFR750F & CBR400RR) and there are not that many 2nd hand calipers around. Be aware that you will probably need to fit a new seal kit and pads. You could also need pistons. Simple rule, if the calipers look disgusting then you will probably need everything, if they look the opposite then you might be able to just bolt them on and spend nothing. These are damn good calipers and you can pick them up quite cheaply.
      • Honda Part Numbers
      • Brake Pads - 45105-KV3-701
      • Left Caliper Assy 45100-KV3-772
      • Right Caliper Assy 45200-KV3-772
    • Nissin Threaded:
      • These are the calipers seen on the Fireblades and later Hondas. You need a complex, heavy and more expensive bracket for this.
    • Brembo 40mm and 60mm Pitch Threaded:
      • As in the previous case, you will need a complex, heavy and more expensive bracket for this.
    • Fake calipers:
      • I have examined some of these. They are well finished but the pistons and seals look very dodgy. If you want to replace those parts with quality OEM or aftermarket bits then it could be an option.
    Shimming: You will see this mentioned and some sellers also supply shims and you can buy machined shims from places like McMaster-Carr in the US. The reason that some calipers may need shimming is that the disc should be in the centre of the caliper and all the combined parts that go to make that possible means that there a lot of tolerances that can accumulate. Positioning the caliper is very easy to do with the fully threaded bracket because if you put the shims between the caliper and bracket then you move the caliper out and if you put them between the fork and the bracket then you move the caliper in. However, with brackets that fit to threaded calipers the shims will only move the caliper in no matter where you put them. We can supply some with the brackets but they should be redundant unless you have bent forks.

    Litetek Brackets:
    CNC machined 6061 alloy anodised. Comes in a range of colours. You can have black, black or black. MC19 owners can probably use this also but I need to confirm that, so get in touch with me if you have an MC19 and want one. No, I did not make them. I could, but no matter how many times I ask God for a VMC it just doesn't fall out of the sky, so I had to pay someone else to make them to my design. What I need to do is to make knives like 'Grimsmo' and post inane YouTube videos about nothing that always begin with “Hey Guys, wassup” then I can sell my knives for $600 a piece, or is that 1300 a piece. Unfortunately my cynicism and dry sense of humour would piss off all the YouTubers and they would insist that YouTube ban me, not to mention I don't own a dog.
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    Now before you start moaning about the price, 2225 Thai Baht per pair shipped, and reminding me that you have seen similar brackets for Groms (except they were pink) on Aliexpress for $2.68, let me explain something; I don't care. I know that within a year there will be some seller named gkxlw on Aliexpress and he will sell those along with plastic key fobs for Saabs and inflatable thongs. But gkxlw won't sell any because all of the 2nd hand Nissin calipers will have already been bought up and that ship will have well and truly sailed. gkxlw won't care about this either because his uncle gave him all the money to start his business and his uncle won't care because he stole the money from the Chinese government in the first place, like all good government employees do. The only person who will care will be you because you were waiting for the pink brackets to show up on Aliexpress for $2.68 and in the meantime the global supply of suitable calipers has vanished. Why would the global supply vanish? Because there are a lot of Hondas that use the same OEM caliper to fork leg bracket as the MC22. Which means that these brackets will suit a lot of models but there are not many Hondas that had these unthreaded 4 pot Nissins. Of course you could buy a pair of calipers and wait a year or two for your Aliexpress buddy to make his appearance. In which case you are a sad individual and you need to get out more.

    So enough nonsense from me.

    Cheers
    Blair
     
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    Fit & Price:
    Here is a shot of the pad position on the disc face. As you can see sitting just below the disc edge. Sorry for the ugly pad, stupid me bought the wrong pads so I had to use an old one for the picture.
    PadAlignment_02.jpg
    and this one showing caliper centre to disc centre.
    PadAlignment_001.jpg

    PRICE:

    Price is 2225 Thai Baht per pair shipped (I only have 9 pairs left at the moment) and includes 4 of 1.0mm stainless shim washers. I am also going to have 12 point Titanium caliper bolts, the ones that hold the two halves of the caliper together, available in about a week. The OEM bolts are Torx external which is why they look like 12 point.
     
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    So here what it looks like almost finished.
    Nissin_Bracket_04.jpg
     
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