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Discussion in 'Megelli 250cc' started by kiffsta, Dec 28, 2010.

  1. Desmo

    Desmo Member Premium Member

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    Saw one of the new megellis at action MC, they do look so nice from afar, but up close look very chinky and cheap. The frame and swingarm are very nice though.  :)

    Wonder if you could slot a DRZ400 motor in there!  ;D
     
  2. b.feng91

    b.feng91 New Member

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    hey!



    just to give you guys an update on whats going on with my megelli 250r se
    I got the bike into repairs all the way into Ingleburn and got it back,

    so first of all

    Gears:
    -seem to be really soft now, transitioning is alot easier but neutral is still a problem...
    -shifting to neutral from gear 2 is not as troublesome as it used to be
    -shifting to neutral from gear 1 is impossible, even when the neutral lights come up
    you still stall when you let go of the clutch, it is a very strange problem...
    -the most interesting thing is, when you accelarate from standing to about 25 (which is around 4-5k rev) and you try to switch to gear 2 in a really soft manner, you end up with neutral!
    and then sometimes I scare myself because i rev the engine lol......
    -trying to switch gears when you have stopped in a sloped road also gives you a pain
    of just even moving down to gear 1.....


    ignition:
    -seems to be a really random and not a very high percentage of success when starting the engine
    -tried the neutral & kill switch combo & neutral & turning off by key combo in which both have problems starting on initial igniting. it seems to me that either the igniting button isnt position properly to fire up the engine or something else....
    -when starting in the morning you use the choke because its too cold in the morning right? well that is 99% success rate
    -to sum up ignition, something is wrong and i really want to know how its stuffing up...

    exhaust:
    -replaced the backlights because it was getting so black from the fumes?
    -according to my beloved lady, she said there must be a problem with the
    combustion of the fuel in order to produce such a black soot around the backlights?
    -it really stinks... not sure if all other motorbikes are like this, but your cloths
    start to stink like fuel too lol

    other then any of that, seems fine but they are pretty major, especially the gear switching one,
    because it can really cause an accident when you can accidentally switch to neutral randomly
    when accelerating from gear 1...... i just really want to get on someone else's bike now and see how easy it is to switch to neutral...... during my L's lesson, learning on the honda vtr 250 seemed like a perfect machine.... ignites everytime, neutral easy to get to........

    i dont know what to do now... I've communicated with the importers again (Ingleburn) and they said they would pass this on to the chinese engineers but they are away at the moment to melbourne (this was why i was called to get it fixed there because the chinese engineers are in Australia for 2 weeks) if I go there again and problem is not fixed.... >.<

    I can't get pissed off at the people there because they're so nice and yet this bike is only 3 months old....


    I'll let you know what happens later on =)
    let me know what you think!


    Peace
    Billy
     
  3. b.feng91

    b.feng91 New Member

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    Oh !!


    I forgot one very important thing too!


    RANDOM SQUEAKING of the wheels?? it is VERY VERY intermittent,

    but usually squeaks at low speeds?

    Got any clues about that too?

    =)

    Thanks!
    Billy
     
  4. da_vichy

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    Hey all, good to know there's a Megelli forum around.

    I own a 2011 Megelli 250R. Got it brand-new almost four months ago.

    It actually handles quite responsively and revs quite well. Just as importantly, it definitely turns heads and people often mistake it for a Ducati! It is an excellent-looking bike, which is why it is so disappointing to notice flaws with it.

    Starting the bike is a real hassle, especially in the cold. After two days of not riding, I have tried no choke, some choke, half choke, full choke. I have tried no throttle, some throttle, and full throttle to no avail. I have tried all the possible combinations to the point that the battery has been depleted. I am aware of the possibility of flooding the engine. To remedy this I gave it a break and then held the throttle open to flush out excess fuel. One should not have to push-start a four-month old bike! Others say they start their bike on first go!

    Like Billy, I have also noticed a squeaking of the wheels, especially at low speeds such as when taxiing. Hopefully the guys at FX Powersports will fix it. They haven't been the most helpful. They make it seem like fixing these things, when they do, are doing me a huge favour.

    The gears, especially the lower ones, are quite stiff to change. I also have the problem with the gearbox going to neutral when changing from one to two.

    On top of that, I find I have to top up the radiator fluid too often -- about once a month. At first I suspected that not riding the bike often enough causes a negative suction which draws the fluid out of the reservoir. I find that even riding more often (up to four times per week), the situation has not resolved. Billy, have you experienced that?

    There are also some problems with the finish of the bike and if people are keen to know about them, I'm happy to share.

    Despite its flaws, I am still in love with the Megelli. I hope they resolve these issues for upcoming models because they really do look the part!
     
  5. Megellunatic

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    Hey billy the problem with the thick sooty exhaust is normally caused by a problem with the igniting of the fuel. So if you look down the line of what makes it ignite youve got the fuel which if you fill regularly wont be the problem so next is the spark. Either bad spark plugs, spark leads or worse is the CDI (capacitor discharge ignition) which controls the electricity going to the spark plugs. If any of those are faulty it will cause a poor spark which will give you thick, sooty, fuel smelling exhaust. A personal must for me is to replace the plugs with NGK Iridium spark plugs (pricey but will increase throttle response and accelaration) then at least standard ngk spark leads. Then last get an after market performance CDI which will remove any rev limitations, increase top speed, accelleration and even HP gains of up to 3-5%.

    Hoped that helped mate.

    I just brought a megelli 250r lc in white from stoney creeks this weekend so should be gettin it in 2 weeks cant wait to play around with it n see what i can improve will keep u guys informed about what comes up.

    Cheers Tony
     
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    Hey guys also www.StoneyCreekMotorcycles.com.au is going to update their website in a couple of weeks which will have a list of aftermarket parts you can purchase from them for the Megelli range ie. rear seat cowls, screens, exhausts.

    would look sweet with a carbon fibre exhaust under the seat :)

    Tony
     
  7. kiffsta

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    Hey Tony

    Sounds cool, make sure you let them know about the site when you pick up your bike. Would be great for them to get involved in the forum and share what they have in the pipeline.

    Chris
     
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    Hey guys just found out that a group of engineers from the Megelli manufacturing team have been in Australia to fix the resent problems with the Megelli like the poor ignition times and a few other probs. So according to Stoney Creek Moto all the models now for sale are currently tweeked up and will run better. They also told me the problem with the gears jumping in and out of neutral is a maintainance issue not a design fault because the gears are assembled to be really tight mainly effecting lower gears and that if the gear rods arent tightened properly and lubricated it will pop out of gear if you try to change with any stress on the shift and that its an easy thing for them to fix but needs to be kept well maintained.

    Hope that was good news im happy cos it means when i pick mine up in a couple weeks it will also be running sweet :D

    Cheers Tony
     
  9. b.feng91

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    hey guys

    responding to da_vichy

    haha im relieved im not the only one suffering xD
    the radiator fluid? sorry man, im so new to bikes, im not
    sure if i have that problem lol


    responding to megellunatic

    they didnt fix up any of my problems,
    fumes are still blackening the lights, I see it on all
    the megellis, they tried adjusting the light abit higher
    but still black sooty stuff accumulating on it
    a friend who is a mechanic said its running rich

    ignition problem still there, its like first ignition is always bad
    also replacing all those parts, wouldnt it void the warranty megellunatic?

    anyways...


    squeaking is still there even though they replaced the front pads,
    neutral was getting good, they replaced gear box, and they said
    it 1000km for to embedd in, after 1000km , can sort of get to neutral
    from gear 1 BUT after the 3000km service, it just doesnt budge.....


    by now, im one of the most patient person in the world
    going back and forth from chatswood to ingleburn to fix a
    new bike.... stretched my limits, thinking of contacting consumer person..
     
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    Hey b.feng91

    One thing i didnt think about is exactly as u mentioned. I forgot that its not electronically fuel injected like most bigger bikes lol If you install a jet kit that will then allow you to adjust and improve the throttle positions in the carby allowing u to change from anywhere from running rich to lean increasing throttle response, acceleration and slightly increasing top speed. Running Rich means you've got too much fuel in your carby smothering the ignition also preventing it from sparking properly leading to the thick exhaust. Its quite surprising tho as most bikes are made to run really lean so that they meet exhaust emission import regulations. If that and my other tips dont work then your next option is an aftermarket carby lol

    Cheers
     
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    Id say cut your losses, sell the thing and get a reputable bike. I'm struggling to find a decent long term review on the net of the Megelli  :o half of the problems your mentioning are straight up design flaws, not an off the cuff issue. Carb isnt even jetted right out of the box? wtf.

    You should be learning to ride anyway, not wrestling with a pile of parts :p

    Hope you get it sorted whichever path you choose to go down anyway and many years of trouble free riding :p
     
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    As good as they look i would have to agree. The last thing you want while learning to ride is the hassle of a bike not doing what its supposed to.

    Hope it all works out for you.
     
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    Are these the series 1 air cooled or series 2 water cooled versions that are having the issues?

    I've got a series 1 - had it since last September (Repairable Write Off) got it with 1700 on the clock, now with almost 5k.  IT was banged up a little on the rear and the fairings could definitely be replaced at some stage.

    Issues so far:
    I've had to replace the orginal battery
    Stand not working well but proably due to accident it had - but replaced bolts and works a treat again
    Next ride after heavy down pour on bike...electrics were a little out of whack - but worked fine once it dried up.

    With that being said and the number of years that Megelli have been operating I think I've been pretty lucky comparing stories.  I hope that the new model has updates that we potentially apply to both series 1 and 2 to get over these humps, as they are such a nice looking cheap alternative.
     
  14. kiffsta

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    I think we are heading down 2 different paths in this thread, the first being quality issues and the second being consumer rights.

    Lets address issue 1, Megelli are a relatively new manufacturer and are sourcing engines from a 3rd party then building a bike around them, as with any new manufacturer, I would expect some defects and issues. It generally takes a few years for a new manufacturer to iron out any design problems. I think if you look back historically when Japan first entered the motorcycle manufacturing circle, their bikes weren
     
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    like chris said they are the new kid on the block and quality comes with time. Lets not forget how bad everyone thought the hyo's were and they have come really good in the last few years. Manafactuers rarely get it right straight off the blocks and hopefully the future generations of these bike have the bugs fixed. Because they are a great cheap alternative to the japanese bikes.
     
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                                        THE MEGELLI SYNDROME
    For a new kid on the block, Megelli has certainly caught our attention and sadly for not all the right reasons. The consensus of opinion that I see in all threads so far is that they got the design right, no doubt about that. This is one hell of a good looking bike. If we were to grant a score purely based on design, I think a 9/10 wouldn't be over the top. But alas design is but one component in the overall package.
    Out sourcing can be a tricky business. So many factors come in to play. Pricing, company reputation, reliability and the list goes on. I'm not privy to Megelli's decision making process but am certain that many factors would have been tabled and investigated before a final contract was issued re: engine, electronics and so on, all based on extensive research.
    Unlike the four manufacturers from Japan, Megelli do not manufacture there own engines, as we covered above this requires outsourcing. Megelli are certainly not the only motorcycle company to outsource engines.
    Hyosung use Suzuki designed engines , Cagiva from Italy use Suzuki engines in certain bikes and Aprilia have sourced engines from Suzuki also. It stands to reason that sourcing of these engines was based on, reliability, reputation,pricing and probably a bundle
    more.  Back to Megelli.
    I read with interest that engineers from Megelli are doing the rounds endeavouring to rectify, solve and provide solutions to some of the issues raised by customer. To this end, they must be commended for there efforts. Megelli are not wanting a poor tag attached to there name, I'm sure. A bad or poor reputation is something very difficult to shake, Megelli like others are perfectly aware of this and trying to remedy these problems.
    We can all be critics, that's easy to do. But reality is this, Megelli have the basis of a good machine that requires some fine tuning, a few bugs and gremlins that need to be sorted. Lets hope that they can gets this done sooner rather than later and we start hearing some praise for there products.
                                                    Phil
     
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    Hey ladies and gents sorry i havnt been on lately lol i got my White 2011 Megelli 250r LC a couple of weeks ago. Shes still in the running in phase so i cant start judging yet but so far its a good ride. The only probs ive had is trying to find Neutral as sometimes it just doesnt want to play and also the exhaust has started turning the tail light black just like another rider has stated on this thread i guess it may be the down side to having an under seat exhaust as opposed to the good looks. When shes fully run in im gonna start playing around with her to see if i can get more out of her n fix the exhaust problem so ill keep yas posted.

    Cheers
     
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    Nice, I like the look of the Carbon fibre bike
     

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