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Poor design, you be the judge!!!!

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  1. Phil

    Phil Senior Member Contributing Member

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    I have mostly admired the Japanese motorcycle manufacturers for there design work, intuitive designs and ease of access in most cases. Having said that, I know most of us curse at times the limited space on some bikes and with good reason. Today, rain caused me to stay indoors so I thought I would check my tool kit and ascertain wether I needed to add anything extra.
    Ok, take the ignition key and unlock the riders seat, that lock also doubles as a helmet lock, good idea.:thumb_ups:
    The seat on the gsf400 is in 2 parts, rider and passenger. So I have the rider seat off. Now I need to remove the passenger seat to gain access to my tool kit but wait a minute, 2 screws attach the rear seat to the frame and the tool kit is under, yes you guessed it, under the rear seat. Hang on, I need the screw driver to undo the 2 screws which is in the tool kit, WTF, someone REALLY GOT THIS WRONG. :headbang: Have to think about this?????:(
     
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    Phil Senior Member Contributing Member

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    Think so.
     
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    You have to do the same as BMW.
    Fit a small screwdriver under the riders seat, to access the tool kit.
    BMW have a hex head tool/ screw driver under the seat for the same purpose
     
  5. Phil

    Phil Senior Member Contributing Member

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    Hear what you are saying, still doesn't make any sense to me. Why put a small tray with strap to hold the tool kit in place under the rear seat when you need the tool kit to remove the rear seat to access the kit. Dumb.
     
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    maybe they were thumb screws in a previous life ?
     
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    Kerz Beginner level grinder :)

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    They should be dzuz fasteners, that way you can undo them with your key haha
     
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    The plot thickens ....

    seat 1.jpg seat 2.jpg
     
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    Well the manual calls them bolts and the parts list calls them screws :commando: ..... as Chris suggested , thumb screws or something removable without a tool seems a more logical choice.
     
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    put a hacksaw cut across to use a coin in.
     
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    Something like a wing nut, that might work. Might head down to boltmaster and see what they have in stock.
     
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    Not according to manual
     
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    Those Japanese designers have a great sense of humour don't they :lolsign:
     
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    Yea .... reminds me of the coolant hoses on the FZR ..... a couple of them have different diameters each end ..... why wouldnt the fittings on the rad, thermostat and pump etc be all the same?

    :commando:
     
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    Make no sense at all..
     
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    It is nothing more than a Zen Buddhist puzzle Grasshopper ;)
     

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