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Discussion Small capacity Adventure bikes

Discussion in 'Rides and Events - Clubs and Groups' started by Frankster, Jun 11, 2021.

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  1. Andych

    Andych Moderator Staff Member Premium Member Contributing Member Dirty Wheel Club

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    Yep, Bogans pretty much sum it up.
    Only real issue with the Himalayan is power. Figures of 18 to 20kw for a 410 cc single are not going to cut it.

    If I was looking seriously, I think the Triumph Tiger 660 would be on the shopping list.
    A bit expensive at $15K but looks to be a hell of a bike for those $$


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    After watching a heap of reviews on the Tiger 800 and the fact the motor is the 'same' triple as my Daytona but with a longer stroke , I would find it hard not to go with it ..... it has the exact same sounds , unique to the triple ... the common response from the reviewers was "ohhhh love that motor" :lolsign:

    But then it would be nice to experience a different manufacturer
     
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    Just picking up this thread again that Frank started.
    Has anyone considered a conversion of a VT250/VTR250 for adventure use.

    I had this wild arse thought about making some changes to my little Spada for use as a small adventure bike.
    It might be a bit underpowered but it would add another dimension to my riding.
    Inspired by this one.

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    Cheers

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    If you are going to go down that road Peter, then you had better look for some trail bike/motocross suspension to put under it. That one above has stock suspension and just a sump/pipe guard, some old ammo boxes, blocky tyres and a dodgy muffler.
    To my mind the way to go would be a trail/motocross bike frame and shoehorn in a VT engine. Looking at my VT and my XL250 it would be a bit of a squeeze, so some type of vertical twin might be a better way to go (as per what Gregt did, back a page) similar to the Kawasaki Versys 300.
    I don't understand why we get so uptight about taking road bikes on dirt roads. For the first couple of years of my road riding career I lived 7 miles from the end of the tar and had to ride over the dirt/gravel and two creeks to get home. Think back before the Japanese trail bikes came around and ALL bikes had to be ridden on dirt to get anywhere and often a BSA Gold Star would be used for trials. scrambles (motocross), road racing and with the lights back on rode to work on Monday.
    Any bike with too much weight is going to be a handfull on the dirt, so what ever you wish to ride look for a lightweight.
     
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    Frank,
    Yes, some good points. My main motivation was being able to use my Spada on dirt roads and the occasional trail. Not really thinking bush bashing. I could probably get by with a suitable set of tyres and a bit of common sense prep. I have enough road sport bikes, so something with a bit more versatility was the thought. I have attempted to ride my spada down a small grass slope a while ago and that just ended in embarassment. So probably dual sport tyres would be first on the list.
     
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    I is not a Frank. :D
     
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    Finding appropriate dual sport tyres to fit might also be an issue. Standard (road) tyres are 110/80x17 and 140/70x17.
     
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    wasn't paying enough attention. Sorry Murdo.
     
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    Rims are17" x 3" up front and 4" up back. So will do some research on tyre availability.
     
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    I went and had a good look at the Triumph 660 Tiger Sport today... it is a lovely bike, quite a bit bigger than you might expect.
    With my shorter stature the only way I could get the leg over was to mount it via the footpeg... apparently that is quite common for Adventure bikes now.
    While I couldnt take one for a test ride (they have no floor stock and the one I sat on is sold) the seating position is lovely and once on board it doesnt seem as large as it is.
    At $15K ride away (without any extras) it is a pretty good deal. The dealer also sells the Versys but didnt have any there and couldnt tell me when they might be able to get their hands on one... stock is difficult to find apparently.
    There is a Karosi Red / Graphite that they have coming in around August that isnt sold... YET.
    Plenty of factory extras available but the only ones I think I would be interested in are the Quick shifter (with auto blip), Technology pack (for connecting your phone etc), heated grips and maybe hand guards and definitely the comfort Low seat... Plenty to think about on that one.........
    https://www.triumphmotorcycles.com.au/motorcycles/adventure/tiger-sport-660
     
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    And they had no demo model , nothing on the floor , as well


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    Pretty much the same for any new bike, car, caravan etc these days... long gone are the days of buying something off the showroom floor.
    The Tiger 850 wasnt much bigger than the 660 to be honest... All the Triumphs were very nice...
     
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    And my attempts at having an enclosed bike trailer built are just as bad ... bloody annoying

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    NeK Minute there will be an extended wait time for Garages and builders... oh, wait, there already is an extended wait time for both.
     
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    Its not about a specific "adventure" labelled bike , its about something comfortable and fit for purpose to tour around on via the back roads, especially being old and buggered ourselves.
    People that do that crap on "unsuited" bikes are wankers , especially the stupid postie bike thing .... theres 101 bikes more suitable that wouldnt probably even make the "adventure" label

    I enjoy riding my Daytona 675 .... would I ride it to Broken Hill and back ? ... maybe .... would I ride it to Birdsville and back ? .... not a chance .... I hope Im not that stupid and would make as much sense as taking a Tiger 850 Sport on a track day
     
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    That's a great read. Excellent adventure that I don't think you can do anymore or may never be able to do again.
     
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    On a lighter note :lolsign:


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