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Spray can vs spray gun

Discussion in 'Tech Tips' started by Tim_, Aug 19, 2014.

  1. Tim_

    Tim_ resident nutcase Premium Member Dirty Wheel Club Contributing Member

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    most rattle cans are varnish, not acrylic or enamel.
     
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    Tim_ resident nutcase Premium Member Dirty Wheel Club Contributing Member

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    Cans use a solvent to make them dry quicker, guns use a hardener... So basically when you spill fuel or any solvent based products on the rattle can paint it will lift and eat through it...
     
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    2 pak uses an isocyanate hardener. acrylic uses an acetone or alcohol based solvent. varnish uses a low volatility solvent. fuel will eat through acrylic slowly, 2 pak fuel has a zero affect on but varnish softens at first drop.
     
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    and schooled *shuffles out of room with head hung low*
     
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    I'm painting now with 2 pak, the painting i've done in the past was with acrylic lacquer & it was ok but it is a bit tempramentle & not as durable.
    I've just done a frame with acrylic lacquer, silver with a clear over & fuel has affected it a bit, very disappointed, the rest of the bike was done with 2 pak & it's still like new.
    Off the shelf rattle cans are enamel & a bitch to sand off, nothing will stick to enamel later so it has to be removed if you want to do a propper job with 2 pak or acrylic, I'm no expert that's just what I've experienced & Ive got some big fairings I've spent hours & hours sanding back because the last owner painted it with Circus Yellow from Bunnings Damn it. I've tried 'Bumper Stripper' but don't waste your money, it's just weak paint stripper & it still eats into the plastic & leave a crappy surface that has to be fixed.
    But now having had success with 2 pak I'd not use anything else.
    Like what I tell my apprentices, the long hard way is always the best in the end,
     
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    I used 4 pak , 1 pak of orange, 1 of black, one of white, and one of top coat clear, looks the part :(
     
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    Well for me spray gun would last longer and paint finish is still superb compared with regular spray can paint.
     
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    Russky Careful, man, there's a beverage here! Premium Member Contributing Member

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    Interested in this thread.

    Want to paint my fairings. Not gonna splash on a compressor and all the kit.
     
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    find a back yarder and give them a carton of/ and pay for 2pak. dearer but you will not regret.
     
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    As far as I know isn't 2-PAC paint illegal or at least, highly questionable to use D.I.Y. without a spray booth/extractor fan due to the fact that the chemicals they use are seriously toxic?

    http://www.safetysolutions.net.au/a...nters-must-know-about-two-pack-paint-spraying

    Something to be very wary of when you get involved with it, I don't doubt it does a better job - it will always be the king of wear/finish but christ, last thing I want is to see a member hurt because they delved in without knowing what is going on.
     
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    if using a good respirator and long covered clothing then while not perfect is kind of ok. always some one doing it. spray booth should be used but epa does not cover a back yard.would i spray 2 pak in my yard....no...some do.
     
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    I use the disposable suits, there about $10, used for asbestos removal. Get a tissue box of disposable rubber gloves. Splash out on a full face mask with appropriate filters about $150, it'll last you for years if you store it well, 3M have good ones on ebay.
    Hey, fast food will give you high blood pressure from obesity & onset diabetes, smoking will kill you, obviously, one way or another, pollution from the bikes & cars we drive will do the same and alcohol poisons most of your organs in different ways & leads to all sorts of life threatening complications.
    But all the above can be tolerated in controlled doses.
    I've got employees who demand face masks for safe work which I encourage, but they have to remove them to have a smoke each hour !
     
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    willcr15 is pretty careful. a cowboy down the street does it on the lawn.
     
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    and i do it for a living :)
     
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