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Subaru clutch replacement

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  1. ruckusman

    ruckusman Well-Known Member Premium Member Dirty Wheel Club

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    Guys,

    I know this is a motorbike forum, but the wealth of talent and experience makes me think that someone may have successfully completed this task.

    Just wondering if anyone has replaced the clutch on their Subaru by shifting the engine forward after removal of the radiator etc to make space, i.e. not lifting it all the way out on a gantry.

    I should mention that the cost t get the job done by a mechanic is more than the car is worth - it's a beater

    Reason I ask is because I don't have a hoist to do the transmission removal method, don't have a gantry or a good work space for one, but thought that shifting the engine forward may be sufficient for space

    This is a good vid

    I suppose that if I sort everything for engine removal I can hire a gantry and get it sorted if need be in a pinch - the clutch replacement part of the process is a piece of cake
     
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    Never done a subie but I dont think you will have sufficient room to clear the input shaft....pop over to the mighty car mods forum they have a very big DIY crew and a subaru fan base...
     
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    I would check out FB marketplace and Gumtree for an engine hoist... I bought one on special from eBay for $250, used it to remove one engine and trans in a Mazda 323 and swap it for another...did it all in one weekend and then sold the hoist for $220 so it only cost $30... it can be done.. and is faster, safer and a lot less hassle.
    I have a cheapie clutch alignment tool I could send you but I am not going to be home for a few weeks and nobody else is game to step foot in my Garage
     
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    I know what you mean about the supply and fit cost, i was quoted $900 to S&F a new clutch to my wife's 1998 Mazda 626, we sold it as is a bit cheaper

    I'm interested if it can be done without removing the engine fully on the Subie too, we have a 03 Forester that need's a thrust bearing (It squeaks etc when your foot isn't on the clutch)
    i reckon i'll wait till the clutch slip's/goes and replace the lot at the same time.
    I have a h/duty crane you could borrow too but i'm a bit far away i reckon.
     
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    Thanks Wozza - I'll pop over there and see what they say, I haven't popped the bonnet to check the clearance with the radiator removed, but I am hopeful and at any rate I'll hoist the engine out rather than lay underneath if it come to that
     
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    Here's the annoying thing, when I rebuilt the engine on Mum's Barina I made an engine hoist for the cost of materials, it also doubled as an engine stand, when I moved I ran out of space, so it went the great recycling centre in the sky - this time I'll probably just hire one if need be, hopefully I won't need to.

    I'm hoping the kit comes with the alignment tool, ones I've seen on ebay seem to.
     
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    I'll take pics as I go and try and document it for you - minimum will be removing the radiator and I also need to check what the service interval is for the timing belt as I may just do that at the same time if it's close to due.

    My clutch is so bad that I'm at the point when I just can't put my foot down, but I look at cars as a PITA, bikes are so much better unless you've got cargo and passengers

    Now if I could only stop the damn thing rusting I'd keep it until it dies completely
     
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    Amen to that ...never again :D
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    Hey Guys,

    bringing this one up again - looking for an engine hoist that I can hire hopefully from someone on the forums which can be anywhere between Narrabeen in Sydney and somewhere, hopefully not too far out of the way to Mansfield which is in North East rural Victoria

    Long story short I did the clutch replacement on the ground with the front of the car on jack stands by removing the transmission and everything else to get it done - lying on damp carpet in 6 degrees, and, in twit fashion I screwed up fitting the new rear main seal so now need to essentially do it over again but this time I'm going to remove the engine and need a hoist to accomplish that.

    Hoping to be traveling back from Narrabeen to Mansfield this weekend

    I did search gumtree for something local to mansfield but came up empty and I don't really want to purchase one, I can rent one from Coates hire in Shepparton but I'd be happier paying rental fees to a forum member

    Anyway open to suggestions
     
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    I needed on to do an engine swap on a Mazda 232 for my daughter and found the best way was to purchase one new on eBay...I managed to get one that was on 20% off at the time do the work.. clean it up (if it got dirty) and then sell it again on ebay or gumtree.. ended up costing me about $40 but there were no time issues (rental is by days or weeks normally) so it worked out really well.
    I picked my time to sell it as well.. making sure none were on special... might be worth investigating.
     
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    The Suby engine's weigh under 140kg with all bolt on's
     
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    Plus the gearbox...
    I am with @ruckusman in using an engine hoist...especially if you are by yourself... too easy to hurt yourself..
    I once lifted a Datsun 1600 out by using ropes over my shoulders hunched over and then standing up in the engine bay...
    Young and stupid... might be why I have back problems these days.
     
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    140kg should be ok with a block and tackle on a shed frame or even a decently built verandah beam
     
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    Engine and gearbox ( depending on the gearbox ) will be 180 kg which is probably a bit much for verandah beams etc


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    I do like the block and tackle ideas, and yes I've already queried about if anyone has a swing set that I can borrow, no luck unfortunately

    I am veering away from purchasing the hoist then selling it, because I usually just don't get around to selling stuff on, I stick stuff in the corner then cover it with something else

    I have had a look at the garage beam - it looks to be solid timber so I'm reticent to just drilling holes through it, though I would probably be allowed, which leaves me buying a block and tackle and that may end up being as much as hiring a hoist, perhaps with the same amount of travel

    Engine will be divorced from the transmission for the lift - the transmission is weighty, I would put it between 60-80kgs at a guess

    The crazy man part of me says I could straddle the engine bay and lift it in increments, but like refitting the transmission, the knack is going to be getting it back down to level - I did a lot of bicep work underneath getting the transmission back in, in conjunction with ratchet straps around old snow skis, minus bindings, across the engine bay - that was one slow, tedious, physically difficult task I can tell you, but I did it - the one take away from that was only a certifiably crazy person would have attempted to do it that way in the first place and stubbornness was the sole reason for my success
     
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    Don't drill a hole in the beam just put a strap over it under the sheeting.
     
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    That's a really good idea, I'll get up on a ladder and see if there's the possibility of slipping a strap through - I have four straps, so could use the same method of using them one after the other to get the lift I need with the ratchet straps - makes life simpler
     
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