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Project The Fizzer Brat Project

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  1. Joker

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    I just have a way of finding fizzers... and I can't help myself! Had almost cleared the shed and then another motor and about 90% of a bike fell into my lap for basically nothing so why the hell not right?

    First things first, pulled the motor down - everything looks good. Will put new rings, lap the valves, do stem seals and a new head gasket and I think it will be fine. I don't have any fairings apart from bits and pieces left so I'm going to find a way to make do with what I have. Still got my 3LN6/7 carbies as nobody has wanted them or my keyster kits so I know where they're going now!

    What I don't have is an exhaust header (with or without EXUP, not fussed on condition as long as it's in one piece). Anyone got one lying around?

    Also, I need a set of diaphragms. Can't be bothered investing in new ones, anyone got any used ones lying around that aren't torn that they will sell me cheap? I know there's a suzuki part that will fit from other threads but at $30/diaphragm well I'd do it as a last resort I guess.
     
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  3. Joker

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    Hmm... thanks mate, interesting. I'm not sure. I don't think I have any diaphragms left to measure against. I'll have to go digging in the shed again to see.
     
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    I believe @kiffsta might have a set of complete carbies. Or @GreyImport might have carbies that are otherwise too tired.
     
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    I have. 3ln3 engine and carbs , I was holding them for risky and but hasn’t paid of been in contact
     
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    Well, finally have some movement on this. Decided to run it as a Club250 project, invite people round to come build a bike etc. Had a few people available, considering it was basically a rolling front frame on wheels we made some pretty good progress over a couple of hours. Even got replacement rings in and the bore back on the engine, now if only I could find the bloody head gasket...

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    Was going to ask if there's been any progress on this one.
     
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    It's been sitting, I've been a bit distracted since I totalled the 400 and got the replacement XV1100... plus I still gotta put the engine back together on the Vitara. It never ends.
     
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    Oh, I do need diaphragms though. Happy with old ones as I'm not looking to spend much. I know the suzuki ones fit from GI's thread but I'm hoping not to spend another hundy if I can avoid.

    Let me know if you have some spare.
     
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    Sorry can't help you with the diaphram's
     
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    All good mate, appreciate the thought. I have to see how many I can dig out. conveniently I still have most of the keyster kits so tubes, needles and jets are all set.
     
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    Well I need a LH footpeg assembly, 4 used diaphragms and an exup motor with an oval/rectangle plug. Plenty of parts to trade if someone wants to. Anyone interested?

    I have things like stators, good chromed forks etc.


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    @kiffsta might have some parts, but the EXUP might be tricky, seems most people removed the unit.
     
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    Yeh Chris will check on footpeg assembly. I wonder if i can rewire the exup to suit the CDI? Hmm. Suppose it doesn't matter if I delete it for the purposes of this bike.
     
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    Yeah Brat style is all about keeping costs down...black paint instead of chrome/polishing..remove rather than replace....within reason :D
     
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    Yeh, fizzers run like crap down low without the exup. I also am without an air box so combined I wonder what we will end up with... suppose we can only try.


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    You will just have to do what the rest of us non exup do ..play with the exhaust and cam timing :)
     
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    I have a spare airbox, it's the one that came with my bike, the one where i urethaned the carby boot's to the box to get them to seal (i don't have an air filter for it)
    Then i bought another airbox and some brand new boot's and fitted that.
    Not sure if i have another left footpeg spare, will have a look in the next couple of day's for it.
     
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    What about the zeal setup? It doesn't have a exup, does it?
     
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    Don't think there's Exup on the Zeal's, 4 pipe's into 2 then 2 muffler's
     
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