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Discussion in 'Other Projects - Other Bikes (non 250's)' started by GreyImport, Sep 21, 2019.

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    speciality supplies at lambton has various sizes in stock.
     
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    Yea I think I remember seeing that here at Bearfast
     
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    Only thing using the nylon spacer's is they may still bind up a bit between the dog bone's and linkage even with grease ?
    Would it help if you found a longer needle bearing inner race/spacer, so the race hold's the dogbone's out and the nylon spacer/washer sit over the inner race to give the linkage and dog bone's some seperation
    Like the blue alloy spacer's on this shock below but thinner nylon version's
    And would you need longer bolt's too?
    It would make it a bit more work as well

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    All the inner races are what keeps it all 'square' when tightened up
    Theres some movement side to side with the other components fixing points (shock, swingarm, chassis) , so I think the new spacers will have to be precise to give a little movement and mainly be there to stop the metal on metal

    Theres a sequence to tightening the whole setup (link plate bolts first , top shock bolt last with bike on its wheels)

    Rear shock had been off before and it had non standard link plates installed so maybe things wernt put back correctly
    Plus a lack of upkeep with no re greasing , probably isnt going to help the cause
     
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    Got my 35mm stick of gelignite today .... $10

    My lathe operator wasnt on duty today though when I called in :D

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    Onward and upward :neo:


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    All back in one piece .... stock link plates sure has lifted the rear end ... I can only just touch the ground with both feet flat
    Sag would be out of wack no doubt also
    Will be interesting how it handles on the road

    Had a helper in the shed this arvo too ....

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    AWW - you've got a little mate there, sometimes I can get them to sing if I whistle a bit

    At least they might not swoop you at nesting time and say he's my good buddy, gives me treats
     
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    All back in 1 piece and registered for another year

    pro tip ..... dont ride at 100kph on a bike to the inspection at 8am in the morning after its been like -2c overnight .... cold is an understatement :cool:

    Sits a lot nicer with the new stock rear suspension setup

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    Have you noticed more responsive and sharper steering, did you do a measurement of before and after of the rear sag?
     
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    Yea it felt better to ride but its just on basic factory settings ... and the front end is way overdue for a service/overhaul (oil/seals , springs. revalve ), but ol mate (SSS Suspension ) told me depending on what the forks need re parts etc , he may not be able to do them in a decent time frame .... so that will just have to wait
    When everything is done then I can take the bike in and have it all setup by him to suit me.
    He is involved with some of the junior riders on the world stage ..... so Im guessin he knows his stuff
    https://amcn.com.au/editorial/revolving-racer-billy-van-eerde/

    I didnt do a 'before' on anything .... it was only after I had half removed everything I found out I had lowering links .... and knowing all the suspension needed work I hadnt bothered trying to set anything much ..... just fixing glaring misdemeanors like the forks having different settings on each side.

    Its still a little harsh on the bigger bumps on the road but I might try with lower tyre pressures .... currently on the advised pressures of 34/36 .... not a real lot can be achieved though untill the suspension is A1

    ... after riding an FZR250 for like 6 years , anything would feel more responsive and sharper :lolsign:
     
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    I was more interesting in seeing if you noticed that it turned into corners easier, better, too easy worse, I just remember that when I did the rear shock on the Fizzer, the rear rose and I liked the outcome, especially as it was neutral at slower speeds threading traffic and lane splitting
    I didn't measure before and after either
    Then I noticed how bad the forks were, even more, it was like riding a rocking horse before, then it became like sitting in the centre of a see saw
     
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    It definately takes corners with ease and even better than before ..... I havnt ridden alot of different bikes to compare with it but u only need the slightest body movement to take u around corners .... counter steering takes u to another level ... maybe Im leaning on the bar also just thru habit .
    I certainly wasnt hammering it this morning as the tyres would have been colder than me in the seat but its not hard to look down and realise u are doing 100+ round a 60 posted corner kinda thing without too much effort
     
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    That's when they're fun to ride for me, all you have to is shuffle yer butt a wee bit and yer turning - no pressure on the bars necessary, just a little shake of the tail feather

    Sounds like yours is right where it should be now
     
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    There be no lane splitting or threading traffic in Sleepy Hollow :)
    I must admit it looks better now the fairing is level with the tarmac... but we discussed that the other night while freezing half to death outside lol
     
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