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Pinned The 'Look What I Found on eBay,Gumtree,Just Bikes,Bikesales' Thread!

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by kiffsta, Jan 17, 2011.

  1. Frankster

    Frankster See the World before you leave it Staff Member Premium Member Ride and Events Crew

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    I saw this was for sale in Launceston, but once I came out of self-isolation, I had much better things to do with my time. I know many of us have mixed views on electric bikes, but in this case, you've got to be kidding me! $3,990 for something that does 65kph tops? These guys are on the same drugs as the Honda Cub sales and marketing people! They should rename the bike "Super Succa TS".

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    Make a good chook chaser .... farmers pay stupid prices for all their other farm vehicles so it fits the bill
     
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    Actually that's an incredibly sensible use - I know someone that breeds cattle and they muster with horses so as not to spook them with engine noise from bikes
     
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    I have two words to say about electric motorcycles, so I won't say them.
     
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    Frankster See the World before you leave it Staff Member Premium Member Ride and Events Crew

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    Well, you could probably say those two words about that bike and most of us would agree with you.

    Seriously though, this is why China has the world by the short and curlies. Make something so cheap that an importer thinks they'll make a huge profit selling them at 200 to 400% markup and then hang up the phone when it all goes tits up and the retailer can't offload them. And, if it does go well, then raise the cost price and squeeze the importer/retailer. Great business model. My guess is those electric bikes cost AUD1,000 landed, at the most.
     
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    I won't go on about it, but just one post, which I'm sure Murdo and a few other trail bike riders will be aware of...

    Years ago, when a thing called a 'pit bike' popped up on the radar, a mate who had land in central Victoria bought one for his son. He paid $599 for it brand new from a retailer in Melbourne. It was a 250cc unit which looked a lot like a proper trail bike. Spoke wheels, knobby tyres, long suspension etc etc. I visited my mate one day on the way back from the drags and I couldn't believe you could actually build a bike and sell it for that much. I had pics of it somewhere, but I can't find them, so the stock pic below looks pretty close. The only difference was my mate's had indicators and he had registered it (agricultural registration). I took it for a ride and instantly realised this thing looked good from afar, but was far from good! It was gutless, had crap suspension and the list of issues (in my mind) was a mile long.

    But, for $599 it started first time (electric and kick starter) and, if you just wanted to go from paddock to paddock or down the dirt road to your neighbour's place, it was fine. I recall going to the retailer to have a look myself. When I asked about the $599 bike, they laughed and said it was now over $1,000 as the supplier had put the cost price up. Given that every person at that retailer was Chinese, I wondered about the supplier/retailer connection and if initial sales were lost leaders to get a foot hold in the market. The number of Mercs in the staff car park made me think profit margins were substantial, but that's speculative on my part. The bike I took the below pic from had a RRP of $1,899 (plus $250 if you want them to assemble it). Anyone on this forum have one and want to comment? After all, it is a 2fiftycc!

    https://tinyurl.com/y6v7s3to
    https://tinyurl.com/y8urm7gz

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    We have a Crossfire dealer here and I wandered in one day with time to spare to look at them. Nobody came near me to ask the price, but when I looked at the frame welds (where they had ground off the porosity, yuck) I quickly exited and have never looked in there again. One of my grandsons has an Atomic (small wheeled 140cc, pig of a thing to ride but nice snappy engine) and it has nice welds, good design, nice paint but crap plastics. It was only $350 in the box.
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    I believe the crossfire cfr250rr is a Honda copy that you can put actual Honda CRF parts in. Some of the Japanese bikes are made in china. Makes me wonder if the cheap Chinese ones are just start/end of run or Monday units where they think it isn't up to spec. The cfmoto 650 is basically the Kawasaki 650. Some people said that the trick to put bikes was to pull the engine down and re-torque the bolts with loktite. I did have a pit bike, still have part of it, they suffer maltreatment poorly because they are cheap, so good maintenance can help. But a dud is a dud. My 2 cents
     
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    I just bought this on FB Marketplace, he has another one as well that I might be able to do a deal on with a swap for the Postie Bike.... hmmm
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    Picked both of them up with a very slight cash adjustment in a swap for the Postie Bike :)
    Plus the seller is delivering them to me this afternoon.
     
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    Nice little 125. :thumb_ups:
    The hardest bit to get (the muffler and heatshield) are there.
     
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    Muffler and heat shield are there on one but missing on the other bike.
    Seat and side covers will be hard to find as will front guard and taillight. Plus t will need a speedo but have a look at the internal condition of the tank.
    Even the second tank looks half reasonable.
    One kicks over with what sounds good compression.
    Ratty electrics but that is to be expected I guess.

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    One came up for sale a few years ago, so I looked into them (Google research). It seems they aren't a good bike. The design was kind of flawed, they had the middle conrod made heavier to try to balance the motor, but I think that led to other issues, too. Being an old Honda, parts are probably discontinued. Do your own research, All I remember is I was best to say away from them!
     
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    The seller wants $5,250 for it!? I might pay that if it was fully restored. What is it about people with old rusty bikes? Do they not realise there's a thing called the internet and anyone can use a Search Engine to find out details about almost anything?

    Here's a nearly finished one for $8,000. Read the item comments "Restored MVX goes well still needs a couple of little things to finish I just can’t source them". If the parts can't be sourced, then you're stuffed.

    https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/yellow-rock/motorcycles/honda-mvx-250/1236061333

    Good article about the bike and a race version. States "very rare and very fast", but you still need to get one running.

    https://raresportbikesforsale.com/tag/mvx250/

    Old Gold Motorcycles had one for sale years ago. If you've ever bought a bike from Old Gold, you know they have substantial markups on their bikes, so given that price ($2,999) it was a bargain.

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    Don't get me wrong, I like this bike as it's basically a VT250F with a 49hp 2-stroke engine in it. Great, except it's fragile as @ShaneP inferred. I saw one going around at Broadford a few years ago and it was certainly not slow.
     
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