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Help ZXR250 1994, Will idle perfect, only revs to 12k then stops running

Discussion in 'Kawasaki 250cc In-line 4's' started by timmeh01, Mar 20, 2015.

  1. timmeh01

    timmeh01 Member

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    im not sure what the screws are set at. ive put it on the list of things to do. I also dont know what size they are, I just assumed they were stock. Do you know what size they should be? Also someone from facebook thinks its ignition pickup as it runs shotty when cold and fails when hot
     
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    Can you pm me the engine number ?
     
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    I cant see the engine number anywhere. It says its a 1994ZXR250 C if that helps?
     
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    It's on the underneath crankcase on the right hand side
     
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    There's one of two scenarios I think is playing out here.

    Either your vacuum petcock has a problem (most likely with the diaphragm) or it is an electrical problem (stator/reg rec circuits).

    In the case of the petcock, if you're pushing hard for a greater amount of fuel and it's not working properly it will be restricted until eventually the bowls run down to empty. Easy enough to check, get it going take it for a run and when it stops open a couple of bowl drain valves to see how much fuel comes out. If little or none I'd imagine you need to replace the petcock.

    The other scenario is the electrics. Idle is a low current draw but when you're really pulling and the current isn't being supplied you're going to have spark problems (weak spark, inconsistent spark). This ones a bit more difficult to diagnose as it could be through the plugs, coils, reg/rec or stator... see if you can test all of those. The pickup you mentioned is part of the stator circuit and it's easy enough to test if you google how.
     
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    Does it do it with the petcock on 'prime'? thereby bypassing the vacuum valve.
     
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    Theres the problem, i seen you posted the engine number on kiffstas profile and you have an A model engine in a C model not sure but the ignition timing is different as they are a completely different engine internally.
     
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    So running a C model CDI we assume? Which would have totally wrong ignition timing.

    I was going to say that it might be something along the lines of a speedo-restricton, I know some Japanese bikes get ignition cut at 12k when there isn't a sensor from the speedo
     
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    ZXR A Model engine does not use a vacuum valve Like the C model does. Carbs are setup with bigger main jets too. Different CDI as well. is the choke working properly?
     
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    I think the choke works? I dont see it not working. So what does that mean now :S
     
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    It does the same thing with the petcock on prime
     
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    As in, what should my plan of action be to get this thing running and on the road?
     
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    I had a very similar problem with my ZXR after taking it to a mechanic the bike would not rev past 10,000rpm. It turned out that the four wires that connect to the coil packs where put on in the wrong order and that was stopping it rev. Once that was fix the bike was using the whole rev range once again. Just a thought
     
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    Check this ^^
     
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    While you are at it post us the cdi numbers and possibly a pic. If you are indeed running an a model engine with c model electrics and carbs it's never going to run right. Have you had your carbs apart? What were the jets?
     
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    Hey all.
    Carb pilot jets are '35' for all. Carb main jets are '122' for 1 and 4, and '125' for 2 and 3. The CDI numbers / label says a huge 'B' followed by:
    21119-1384
    131800-5960
    12V TNCF30
    DENSO JAPAN

    My engine number is ZX250AE004574. On a C model, does it say ZX250CE004574 instead?
    @venom80 ill give that a look as well thanks!
     
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    Yes a ZXR250c engine number says zx250cXXXXXX so someone in the past has blown a motor and put in that one, most likely struggled to get it to run correctly and sold it. @kiffsta @Frankster any input guys?
     
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    When I bought the bike the owner before the one I bought it off had done a burnout / the back tire was completely worn from one so I would think it was running at some point. The owner before me bought it and let it sit in a shed for 2 years. Because the bike is running / runs for a while before stopping, we have started to think its just the carb's needing a proper cleaning / tuning (at least we hope).
     
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    It looks like the floats are sitting very low so maybe the bike has just been running out of fuel quickly when you start to rev it (it will sit and idle no problem)
     
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