1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Eva, the ZXR250 bitsa.

Discussion in 'Kawasaki 250cc In-line 4's' started by Wade Wilson, Jan 18, 2014.

  1. GreyImport

    GreyImport Administrator Staff Member The Chief Contributing Member

    Messages:
    10,929
    Likes Received:
    6,720
    Trophy Points:
    1,168
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2012
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Between a Rock and a Hard Place
    Location:
    North by NW NSW Oztralia - Tamworth
    My Bike:
    *Kawasaki ZXR250C *Yamaha FZR250R 3LN1 *Yamaha FZR400 *Triumph Bonneville 750 T140V *Triumph Daytona 675 *Triumph Tiger 800XC
    Talk at the Learners course here (NSW) was that the FZRs and ZXRs etc cant do the P test because of their lack of turn at slow speed on all the stupid cone dodging u have to do.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  2. Th3_Huntsman

    Th3_Huntsman Senior Member Contributing Member

    Messages:
    2,428
    Likes Received:
    1,173
    Trophy Points:
    823
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2013
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Dispatch Manager
    Location:
    Beenleigh
    My Bike:
    NONE
    It is doable but a shitload harder, if you can do the course on their bikes I would recommend it
     
  3. GreyImport

    GreyImport Administrator Staff Member The Chief Contributing Member

    Messages:
    10,929
    Likes Received:
    6,720
    Trophy Points:
    1,168
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2012
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Between a Rock and a Hard Place
    Location:
    North by NW NSW Oztralia - Tamworth
    My Bike:
    *Kawasaki ZXR250C *Yamaha FZR250R 3LN1 *Yamaha FZR400 *Triumph Bonneville 750 T140V *Triumph Daytona 675 *Triumph Tiger 800XC
    But here its like $175 to hire their bikes for the day ..... its partly why I bought the Hyo
     
  4. zixxer

    zixxer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    457
    Likes Received:
    171
    Trophy Points:
    248
    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    My Bike:
    zxr250
    u turn was difficult but that was the only hard part the turning circle is not great as you all know. They give you plenty of practice., Just dont go with a loud exhaust.
     
  5. Mclaren

    Mclaren Well-Known Member Contributing Member

    Messages:
    1,971
    Likes Received:
    939
    Trophy Points:
    698
    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2013
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Brisbane
    My Bike:
    cbr250rr
    Wow 250 with ur bike or 300 use theirs in qld although it bs having to do 2nd test still do same speed on LAMS as to opens
     
  6. Th3_Huntsman

    Th3_Huntsman Senior Member Contributing Member

    Messages:
    2,428
    Likes Received:
    1,173
    Trophy Points:
    823
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2013
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Dispatch Manager
    Location:
    Beenleigh
    My Bike:
    NONE
    I know right, the only difference is the bikes a little heavier. I smashed it, soooooo easy this time.
     
  7. Moo

    Moo Plodge Racing!!!

    Messages:
    1,040
    Likes Received:
    565
    Trophy Points:
    523
    Joined:
    May 7, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Perth WA
    My Bike:
    Ninja 250R
    mate best best for fairing repairer is getting a fiberglass repair tub from bunnings. lightly rub down the front and the back of the area of the fairings.
    start cutting the fiberglass matting to size, little bit bigger than the damage, but make sure you cover the whole area not just the crack. start on the back and allow it to dry (its a quick process) than go to the front and repeat.

    once dry, block sand the outside and skim it with bog and sand, and repeat. once your happy re drill your mounting holes in the plastic. start with a small bit and work your way up and by the end of it all your fairing will be stronger than ever.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  8. Wade Wilson

    Wade Wilson Beaяs Premium Member

    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    253
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Security.
    Location:
    Dapto, New South Wales
    My Bike:
    95 ZXR250C, 94 ZXR250C, 06 Daytona 675.
    I got the fairings all back together and they're holding, but I don't think they're going to hold for long.

    I think it's time to invest in a new set and start repainting.

    I finally took apart the old carbs and discovered the root of all the problems. The stutter, the failing to start when the bike was warm, the running rich, the difficulty starting in general.

    It was these [​IMG]

    The diaphragm on the left is missing the small brass spacer, the one on the right has the spacer. From what I can figure, vacuum pressure forces the slide open, pulls the needle out of the jet and allows more fuel to pass through.

    Without the small spacer, vacuum pressure would build up over the time of a short ride and it would just hold that pressure, keeping the slide pulled out.

    Just something I have to keep in mind next time I check the carbs.

    I hope this helps someone out there who's having the same issues I'm having.

    Also, come this friday I'm going to have to drop the oil because the little crush washer seems to have crushed a bit to much and I've developed a leak, I'm also going to be replacing my indicators and brake lights with LED's. After that it's new fairings and a paint job.
     
    • Like Like x 3
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2014
  9. Wade Wilson

    Wade Wilson Beaяs Premium Member

    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    253
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Security.
    Location:
    Dapto, New South Wales
    My Bike:
    95 ZXR250C, 94 ZXR250C, 06 Daytona 675.
    Forgot to post this.

    This is a video of one of the diaphragms failing to close properly, and holding too much suction.

    Cyl 1, 2 and 4 all have the small spacer, cyl 3 was missing its spacer.

     
    • Like Like x 1
  10. Th3_Huntsman

    Th3_Huntsman Senior Member Contributing Member

    Messages:
    2,428
    Likes Received:
    1,173
    Trophy Points:
    823
    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2013
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Dispatch Manager
    Location:
    Beenleigh
    My Bike:
    NONE
    Good find and good post for the future
     
  11. GreyImport

    GreyImport Administrator Staff Member The Chief Contributing Member

    Messages:
    10,929
    Likes Received:
    6,720
    Trophy Points:
    1,168
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2012
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Between a Rock and a Hard Place
    Location:
    North by NW NSW Oztralia - Tamworth
    My Bike:
    *Kawasaki ZXR250C *Yamaha FZR250R 3LN1 *Yamaha FZR400 *Triumph Bonneville 750 T140V *Triumph Daytona 675 *Triumph Tiger 800XC
    Interesting stuff! :thumb_ups:

    So its running 100% now?
     
  12. Wade Wilson

    Wade Wilson Beaяs Premium Member

    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    253
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Security.
    Location:
    Dapto, New South Wales
    My Bike:
    95 ZXR250C, 94 ZXR250C, 06 Daytona 675.
    Yep, it's running 100% now.

    Stopping on the other hand just turned into an issue.

    My front brakes seem to have turned into marshmellows. I think I have some air in the lines somewhere.
     
  13. Wade Wilson

    Wade Wilson Beaяs Premium Member

    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    253
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Security.
    Location:
    Dapto, New South Wales
    My Bike:
    95 ZXR250C, 94 ZXR250C, 06 Daytona 675.
    I have a problem with my brakes now.

    After about 5 minutes of riding, the front brakes become a bit wobbly and loose, I took apart the lever and had a look, and it seems like the cylinder that pushes the lever back out and deactivates the brake light, isn't extending all the way.

    [​IMG]

    I tried to bleed the brakes a few days ago, but that didn't fix the problem.
     
  14. Wade Wilson

    Wade Wilson Beaяs Premium Member

    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    253
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Security.
    Location:
    Dapto, New South Wales
    My Bike:
    95 ZXR250C, 94 ZXR250C, 06 Daytona 675.
    I decided to clean the cam chain tensioner and check to see if it was still good. I still have some mad cam rattle, so it looks like I'll be getting a new cam chain soon.

    I tried the brakes again, but nothing seems to work.
     
  15. Tim_

    Tim_ resident nutcase Contributing Member Dirty Wheel Club

    Messages:
    1,337
    Likes Received:
    662
    Trophy Points:
    543
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    In your bike shed
    My Bike:
    Modified 1990 Honda MC22 CBR 250RR
    is the
    re still heaps of pressure in the brakes?
     
  16. Wade Wilson

    Wade Wilson Beaяs Premium Member

    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    253
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Security.
    Location:
    Dapto, New South Wales
    My Bike:
    95 ZXR250C, 94 ZXR250C, 06 Daytona 675.
    The brakes are still stiff even though the master cylinder piston is stack half way in. I put some wd40 and topped up the fluid and it seems to have come good, but I don't know for how long.

    But for some reason the bike doesn't want to start anymore, I think I may have a blocked fuel filter or maybe my spark plugs.

    Also, once the bike does eventually start, there is no juttering or caughing, it just revs down, stalls and then fails to start again. I have no idea why.
     
  17. Wade Wilson

    Wade Wilson Beaяs Premium Member

    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    253
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Security.
    Location:
    Dapto, New South Wales
    My Bike:
    95 ZXR250C, 94 ZXR250C, 06 Daytona 675.
    Tomorrow I'm ordering a new cam chain and I think I might need a new clutch.

    Over the past few days I've noticed at higher RPM, the bike will select 2nd gear for a second, then drop back to either neutral or first.

    I thought it was me just not pulling up hard enough and dropping it into neutral, but if I hold my foot under the selector, I can feel the selector push back as it tries to go back a gear.

    Do you guys think this is a clutch issue or a gearbox issue?
     
  18. Tim_

    Tim_ resident nutcase Contributing Member Dirty Wheel Club

    Messages:
    1,337
    Likes Received:
    662
    Trophy Points:
    543
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    In your bike shed
    My Bike:
    Modified 1990 Honda MC22 CBR 250RR
    carb issue sounds like fuel.. might need to clean them or at least check your jets and see if they are blocked

    Is there any cam chain slap when you feather the throttle?
     
  19. Wade Wilson

    Wade Wilson Beaяs Premium Member

    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    253
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Security.
    Location:
    Dapto, New South Wales
    My Bike:
    95 ZXR250C, 94 ZXR250C, 06 Daytona 675.
    I sorted out the fuel issue. The petcock has some gunk in it.

    And there is some bad cam chain rattle. I thought it might have been the tensioner but I checked it and its good.

    Hopefully I'll get the chain on Tuesday.
     
  20. Wade Wilson

    Wade Wilson Beaяs Premium Member

    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    83
    Trophy Points:
    253
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2014
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Security.
    Location:
    Dapto, New South Wales
    My Bike:
    95 ZXR250C, 94 ZXR250C, 06 Daytona 675.
    A little bit of an update.

    Eva has been going strong. I still haven't replaced the cam chain yet, I think I'll wait till it gets a bit worse.

    The clutch started slipping pretty badly at higher RPM, so I ordered a new one and later today I'm going to replace that.

    I only noticed when the clutch arrived that it was designed to only fit the A model and not the C, and I was wondering if there is any difference between the 2 clutches.
     
    • Like Like x 1

Share This Page